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MSNBC 11 Dec 2019

What's The State Of Trump's Impeachment Legal Team?

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GOP Rep. Mark Meadows urges Trump to add attorney Alan Dershowitz to his impeachment defense team as Senate Republicans strategize to hold a short trial in early 2020. Philip Rucker, Ashley Parker, and Mieke Eoyang join. Aired on 12/11/19.


The United Nations released its annual report on the State of the World Population, focusing on female genital mutilation, child marriage, and son preference.
Dr. Erinn Tucker, Faculty Director and Associate Professor of the Practice Global Hospitality Leadership at Georgetown University School of Continuing Studies, talked about the state of the hospitality industry.
Jerry Chiang, Shale Research Analyst from Rystad Energy, talked about the state of the oil industry amid COVID-19 pandemic
CGTN's Rachelle Akuffo speaks to Fred Smith on the state of Black businesses here in the U.S.

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WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FOR THE WASHINGTON POST AND AMICAH
WASHINGTON POST AND AMICAH AMICAH OH YANG.
AMICAH OH YANG. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ALL
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ALL THREE OF YOU.
THREE OF YOU. MARK MEADOWS IS URGING DONALD
MARK MEADOWS IS URGING DONALD TRUMP TO ADD ALAN DERSHWITZ.
TRUMP TO ADD ALAN DERSHWITZ. IS THIS A CONCERN OR A
IS THIS A CONCERN OR A DEFICIENCY ON THE WHITE HOUSE’S
DEFICIENCY ON THE WHITE HOUSE’S LEGAL TEAM?
LEGAL TEAM? >> IT ASSUMES THAT THE PRESIDENT
>> IT ASSUMES THAT THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO WANT AS MANY PEOPLE
IS GOING TO WANT AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE NOT JUST DEFENDING
AS POSSIBLE NOT JUST DEFENDING HIM BUT PEOPLE LIKE SHERWITZ WHO
HIM BUT PEOPLE LIKE SHERWITZ WHO HAVE DONE SO WILLINGLY ON FOX
HAVE DONE SO WILLINGLY ON FOX NEWS AND ON THE PRESS.
NEWS AND ON THE PRESS. IN SOME WAYS WHERE THE PRESIDENT
IN SOME WAYS WHERE THE PRESIDENT AND HIS TEAM BELIEVES THIS IS
AND HIS TEAM BELIEVES THIS IS BEING FOUGHT.
BEING FOUGHT. THAT’S WHERE THEY THOUGHT THE
THAT’S WHERE THEY THOUGHT THE MUELLER FIGHT WAS BEING FOUGHT.
MUELLER FIGHT WAS BEING FOUGHT. THEY WANT SOMEONE WHO’S FIERILYR
THEY WANT SOMEONE WHO’S FIERILYR >> AMONG THE DEFENSES MOUNTED
>> AMONG THE DEFENSES MOUNTED TONIGHT THAT YOU HEARD FROM THE
TONIGHT THAT YOU HEARD FROM THE REPUBLICANS, DID YOU HEAR
REPUBLICANS, DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING THAT’S CONVERTIBLE TO
ANYTHING THAT’S CONVERTIBLE TO THEIR ARGUMENT THAT THEY’RE
THEIR ARGUMENT THAT THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TOLL POST IN THE
GOING TO HAVE TOLL POST IN THE SENATE AND ANYTHING IF YOU
SENATE AND ANYTHING IF YOU ASSIGN YOURSELF THE FLOOR
ASSIGN YOURSELF THE FLOOR MANAGER FOR DEFENDING TRUMP, HOW
MANAGER FOR DEFENDING TRUMP, HOW WOULD YOU GO?
WOULD YOU GO? >> WELL, WE DIDN’T HEAR ANY
>> WELL, WE DIDN’T HEAR ANY SUBSTANCE OF DEFENSE OF THE
SUBSTANCE OF DEFENSE OF THE PRESIDENT, WHAT THE REPUBLICANS
PRESIDENT, WHAT THE REPUBLICANS WERE ARGUING THIS EVENING WAS
WERE ARGUING THIS EVENING WAS THAT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN
THAT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN UNFAIR.
UNFAIR. THE WHOLE POINT OF A FAIR
THE WHOLE POINT OF A FAIR PROCESS IS TO RULE OUT BOTH
PROCESS IS TO RULE OUT BOTH SIDES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
SIDES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. WE HAVE NOT HEARD A SUBSTANCE OF
WE HAVE NOT HEARD A SUBSTANCE OF DEFENSE OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT
DEFENSE OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAD DONE OTHER THAN HE DID IT,
HAD DONE OTHER THAN HE DID IT, GET OVER IT.
GET OVER IT. SO THEY REALLY HAVE LITTLE THEY
SO THEY REALLY HAVE LITTLE THEY CAN ARGUE HERE.
CAN ARGUE HERE. I THINK DEFENDING THE PRESIDENT
I THINK DEFENDING THE PRESIDENT IN THIS PROSCESS IS GOING TO BE
IN THIS PROSCESS IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TASK.
DIFFICULT TASK. WHAT IT COMES DOWN IS STRAIGHT
WHAT IT COMES DOWN IS STRAIGHT LOYALTY FOR THESE REPUBLICAN
LOYALTY FOR THESE REPUBLICAN SENATORS
SENATORS SENATORS.
SENATORS. >> PHIL RUCKER, DOES THE WHITE
>> PHIL RUCKER, DOES THE WHITE HOUSE FEEL THEY HAVE REPUBLICANS
HOUSE FEEL THEY HAVE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE WILLING TO BE
IN THE SENATE WILLING TO BE NAKEDLY AGGRESSIVE AND SOMETIMES
NAKEDLY AGGRESSIVE AND SOMETIMES FACT-NEUTRAL AS SOME OF THE
FACT-NEUTRAL AS SOME OF THE REPUBLICANS ON THE HOUSE PROVEN
REPUBLICANS ON THE HOUSE PROVEN TO BE?
TO BE? >> THE ANSWER, BRIAN, IT IS A
>> THE ANSWER, BRIAN, IT IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED.
LITTLE COMPLICATED. THE VOTE IN THE SENATE SEEMS
THE VOTE IN THE SENATE SEEMS PRETTY ORDAIN AT THIS POINT.
PRETTY ORDAIN AT THIS POINT. ALL REPUBLICAN SENATORS ARE
ALL REPUBLICAN SENATORS ARE LIKELY TO VOTE TO ACQUIT
LIKELY TO VOTE TO ACQUIT PRESIDENT TRUMP, HIS REMOVAL
PRESIDENT TRUMP, HIS REMOVAL FROM OFFICE DOES NOT APPEAR TO
FROM OFFICE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE. THE WHITE HOUSE IS CONFIDENT
THE WHITE HOUSE IS CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT ASSESSMENT.
ABOUT THAT ASSESSMENT. WHAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM
WHAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP IS HE WANTS
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS HE WANTS THERE TO BE A BIG TRIAL, A BIG
THERE TO BE A BIG TRIAL, A BIG SHOW OF FORCE IN DEFENDING HIM.
SHOW OF FORCE IN DEFENDING HIM. HE’S THINKING MUCH MORE OF THE
HE’S THINKING MUCH MORE OF THE PUBLIC RELATIONS ASPECT OF THIS,
PUBLIC RELATIONS ASPECT OF THIS, HOW WILL IT FRAME THE REELECTION
HOW WILL IT FRAME THE REELECTION CAMPAIGN AHEAD FOR NOVEMBER.
CAMPAIGN AHEAD FOR NOVEMBER. HE WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
HE WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SENATE TRIAL ON HOME TURF
THE SENATE TRIAL ON HOME TURF BECAUSE IT IS CONTROLLED BY
BECAUSE IT IS CONTROLLED BY REPUBLICANS TO PUT UP A SHOW TO
REPUBLICANS TO PUT UP A SHOW TO DRAG HUNTER BIDEN IN AS A
DRAG HUNTER BIDEN IN AS A WITNESS AND ADAM SCHIFF AS A
WITNESS AND ADAM SCHIFF AS A WITNESS, TO HAVE FIERY DEFENSES
WITNESS, TO HAVE FIERY DEFENSES OF THE PRESIDENT’S CONDUCT AND
OF THE PRESIDENT’S CONDUCT AND WHAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM SENATE
WHAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM SENATE LEADERS, YOU ARE HEARING FROM
LEADERS, YOU ARE HEARING FROM SENATOR GRAHAM AND REPUBLICANS
SENATOR GRAHAM AND REPUBLICANS TOLD YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE POST
TOLD YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE POST TODAY THAT THERE IS MUCHLESS OF
TODAY THAT THERE IS MUCHLESS OF AN APPETITE AMONG SENATORS.
AN APPETITE AMONG SENATORS. THEY WANT TO GET THIS VOTE TAKEN
THEY WANT TO GET THIS VOTE TAKEN CARE OF QUICKLY AND TURN THE
CARE OF QUICKLY AND TURN THE PAGE AND MOVE ON.
PAGE AND MOVE ON. THAT’S WHERE THE TENSION RESIGNS
THAT’S WHERE THE TENSION RESIGNS RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. >> PARKER, YOU WERE THE PEER
>> PARKER, YOU WERE THE PEER LAST NIGHT.
LAST NIGHT. TALK ABOUT HOW OFTEN THE
TALK ABOUT HOW OFTEN THE PRESIDENT INCORPORATED
PRESIDENT INCORPORATED IMPEACHMENT INTO HIS REMARKS.
IMPEACHMENT INTO HIS REMARKS. >> IMPEACHMENT WAS THE LINE OF
>> IMPEACHMENT WAS THE LINE OF HIS REMARKS LAST NIGHT.
HIS REMARKS LAST NIGHT. YOU CAN SENSE THAT ANGER ON
YOU CAN SENSE THAT ANGER ON TELEVISION AND YOU CAN FEEL IT
TELEVISION AND YOU CAN FEEL IT THERE, BEING THERE IN THE ARENA
THERE, BEING THERE IN THE ARENA IN PENNSYLVANIA, THE PRESIDENT
IN PENNSYLVANIA, THE PRESIDENT WOULD MOVE ON TOUTING POSITIVE
WOULD MOVE ON TOUTING POSITIVE ASPECTS OF HIS PRESIDENCY, THE
ASPECTS OF HIS PRESIDENCY, THE ECONOMY, HE WOULD ALWAYS RETURN
ECONOMY, HE WOULD ALWAYS RETURN TO IMPEACHMENT AND YOU CAN TELL
TO IMPEACHMENT AND YOU CAN TELL THIS WAS SOMETHING, SORT OF THE
THIS WAS SOMETHING, SORT OF THE EMOTIONAL DICHOTOMY OF THE
EMOTIONAL DICHOTOMY OF THE PRESIDENT ISSUE THAT’S DISP PLAY
PRESIDENT ISSUE THAT’S DISP PLAY THERE.
THERE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT INFURIATES
IT IS SOMETHING THAT INFURIATES HIM.
HIM. PART OF HIS IMPEACHMENT TRYING
PART OF HIS IMPEACHMENT TRYING TO UNDER MINE THE IMPEACHMENT
TO UNDER MINE THE IMPEACHMENT SAYING IMPEACHMENT LIGHT AND
SAYING IMPEACHMENT LIGHT AND THEY’RE TRYING TO IMPEACH HIM
THEY’RE TRYING TO IMPEACH HIM FOR DOING NOTHING WRONG.
FOR DOING NOTHING WRONG. AT THE SAME TIME YOU SAW HIM
AT THE SAME TIME YOU SAW HIM TRYING TO MAKE IT INTO A
TRYING TO MAKE IT INTO A POLITICAL ISSUE, ACKNOWLEDGING
POLITICAL ISSUE, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HE BELIEVES THE QUOTE,
THAT HE BELIEVES THE QUOTE, SILVER LINING IMPEACHMENT WAS
SILVER LINING IMPEACHMENT WAS FORCING THE DEMOCRATS TO STRIKE
FORCING THE DEMOCRATS TO STRIKE A DEAL AND SAYING TO HIS VOTERS
A DEAL AND SAYING TO HIS VOTERS THAT THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS
THAT THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS TRYING TO SUBVERT YOUR WILL AND
TRYING TO SUBVERT YOUR WILL AND UNDO 2016 AND FOIL YOU AGAIN IN
UNDO 2016 AND FOIL YOU AGAIN IN 2020 AND SO IT IS BOTH, IT IS A
2020 AND SO IT IS BOTH, IT IS A RALLYING CRY OF SOMETHING THAT’S
RALLYING CRY OF SOMETHING THAT’S SO DEEPLY UPSETTING TO HIM.
SO DEEPLY UPSETTING TO HIM. HE CAN’T HELP BUT TALK ABOUT IT.
HE CAN’T HELP BUT TALK ABOUT IT. >> MIEIF THE WHITE HOUSE HAS A
>> MIEIF THE WHITE HOUSE HAS A CHANGE OF HEART AND DELIVERED TO
CHANGE OF HEART AND DELIVERED TO THE HILL, HERE IS ALL THE DO YOU
THE HILL, HERE IS ALL THE DO YOU MEANS WE COULD FIND, THIS SHOULD
MEANS WE COULD FIND, THIS SHOULD RESPOND TO EVERYTHING YOU
RESPOND TO EVERYTHING YOU SUBPOENAED.
SUBPOENAED. WOULD THEY GET OUT FROM UNDER AN
WOULD THEY GET OUT FROM UNDER AN OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS ARTICLE
OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS ARTICLE AND ARE THEY WILLING TO TAKE
AND ARE THEY WILLING TO TAKE THAT ARTICLE AS OPPOSED TO DOING
THAT ARTICLE AS OPPOSED TO DOING JUST THAT?
JUST THAT? >> I THINK THAT THEY WOULD TAKE
>> I THINK THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THE RATHER THAN PRODUCE THE
THE RATHER THAN PRODUCE THE DOCUMENTS, IT IS NOT JUST THE
DOCUMENTS, IT IS NOT JUST THE DOCUMENTS, THERE ARE ALSO TEN
DOCUMENTS, THERE ARE ALSO TEN WITNESSES WHO ARE REFUSING TO
WITNESSES WHO ARE REFUSING TO APPEAR IN DEFIANCE OF SUBPOENA
APPEAR IN DEFIANCE OF SUBPOENA WHICH NO OTHER PRESIDENT HAS
WHICH NO OTHER PRESIDENT HAS DONE BEFORE.
DONE BEFORE. YOU ALL REMEMBER IN THE CLINTON
YOU ALL REMEMBER IN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION AND THE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE PRESIDENT’S ASSISTANT CAME TO
PRESIDENT’S ASSISTANT CAME TO TESTIFY, BETTY CURRY CAME TO
TESTIFY, BETTY CURRY CAME TO TESTIFY.
TESTIFY. TRUMP HAS NOT ALLOWED ANY OF
TRUMP HAS NOT ALLOWED ANY OF THAT.
THAT. I THINK HE’S CONCERNED OF THE
I THINK HE’S CONCERNED OF THE STORY THAT THEY WOULD TELL,
STORY THAT THEY WOULD TELL, OTHERWISE, THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT,
OTHERWISE, THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT, THE REPUBLICANS ARE MAKING ABOUT
THE REPUBLICANS ARE MAKING ABOUT HOW DEMOCRATS SHOULD SUE TO
HOW DEMOCRATS SHOULD SUE TO ENFORCE SUBPOENAS, THEY NEVER
ENFORCE SUBPOENAS, THEY NEVER ONCE ASK THE PRESIDENT JUST LET
ONCE ASK THE PRESIDENT JUST LET THEM COME FORWARD AND TALK.
THEM COME FORWARD AND TALK. IT IS SIMPLE TO SOLVE.
IT IS SIMPLE TO SOLVE. THEY’RE UNWILLING TO DO IT AND
THEY’RE UNWILLING TO DO IT AND RATHER TO HAVE THE ARTICLE OF
RATHER TO HAVE THE ARTICLE OF OBSTRUCTION.
OBSTRUCTION. >> THE POST DID A CANVASSING
>> THE POST DID A CANVASSING ELECTED OFFICIALS, TALKING ABOUT
ELECTED OFFICIALS, TALKING ABOUT THE KIND OF ERA OF
THE KIND OF ERA OF DISINFORMATION, WE FIND
DISINFORMATION, WE FIND OURSELVES IN.
OURSELVES IN. WHAT WERE YOUR FINDINGS?
WHAT WERE YOUR FINDINGS? >> YEAH, BRIAN, A COUPLE OF
>> YEAH, BRIAN, A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS
THINGS, THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND ESPECIALLY EARLIER THIS WEEK
AND ESPECIALLY EARLIER THIS WEEK AND IN A SINGLE DAY, IT REALLY
AND IN A SINGLE DAY, IT REALLY SPOTLIGHTED THE EXTENT TO
SPOTLIGHTED THE EXTENT TO DISINFORMATION AND DISTRUST IS
DISINFORMATION AND DISTRUST IS TO FIND A POLITICAL SYSTEM AND
TO FIND A POLITICAL SYSTEM AND HALTING THE LEVERAGE OF
HALTING THE LEVERAGE OF GOVERNMENT HERE, WE SAW THAT
GOVERNMENT HERE, WE SAW THAT WITH THE WAY THE PRESIDENT AND
WITH THE WAY THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES HAVE RESPONDED TO THE
HIS ALLIES HAVE RESPONDED TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT OUT OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT OUT OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND AMONG
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND AMONG THOSE ALLIES IS THE ATTORNEY
THOSE ALLIES IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HIMSELF, BILL BARR,
GENERAL HIMSELF, BILL BARR, USING THAT REPORT SPREADING SOME
USING THAT REPORT SPREADING SOME FALSE INFORMATION AND ATTACKING
FALSE INFORMATION AND ATTACKING THE FBI BUT WE SAW MORE BROADLY
THE FBI BUT WE SAW MORE BROADLY THAT THIS IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING
THAT THIS IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING HAS SERVED TO EVEN FURTHER
HAS SERVED TO EVEN FURTHER DIVIDE AND IN FLAME DETHE TENSIO
DIVIDE AND IN FLAME DETHE TENSIO OF THE COUNTRY.
OF THE COUNTRY. THIS IS A REAL IN FLUCTUATIONSFL

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