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'The Five' reacts as Pelosi gears up to send impeachment articles to Senate

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IS "THE FIVE."
IMPEACHMENT DRAMA KICKING INTO
HIGH GEAR ON CAPITOL HILL.
SENATE MAJORITY LEADER
MITCH McCONNELL SAYS THE TRIAL
AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL
START NEXT TUESDAY.
MARKET ON YOUR CALENDARS.
SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI IS EXPECTED
TO END HER SHOWDOWN WITH THE
HOUSE TOMORROW TO TRANSMIT
ARTICLES OVER TO THE SENATE.
THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO
DICTATE THE TERMS OF THE TRIAL
AND PRESSURE
SENATOR McCONNELL.
>> IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH, YOU
HAVE TO HAVE WITNESSES, YOU HAVE
TO HAVE DOCUMENTS.
SPEAK OF THE SENATE SHOULD
CONDUCT A FAIR TRIAL.
A FAIR TRIAL INVOLVES WITNESSES
AND DOCUMENTS.
WHAT IS THE PRESIDENT HIDING
FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
>> WHEN YOU HAVE WITNESSES AND
YOU HAVE DOCUMENTS, YOU HAVE A
FULL AND FAIR TRIAL.
WHEN YOU DON'T, YOU HAVE A COVER
UP.
>> Dana: REPUBLICANS THINK
DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE CAREFUL WHAT
THEY WISH FOR.
>> IT HARMS EVERY SENATOR
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT WITH IOWA
BEING FEBRUARY 3RD AND BENEFITS
JOE BIDEN.
JOE BIDEN SHOULD ACTUALLY MAKE A
PLEDGE NOT TO CAMPAIGN ON
IMPEACHMENT.
>> IF THE PROSECUTION GETS TO
CALL A WITNESS, THE DEFENSE
SHOULD AS WELL.
IF THE PROSECUTION GETS TO CALL
JOHN BOLTON, THE PRESIDENT
SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL HUNTER
BIDEN.
>> Dana: I WAS TRYING TO THINK
OF A METAPHOR AND I COULDN'T
THINK OF ONE, MAYBE YOU CAN.
PERMISSION TO MAKE AN ANALOGY
GRANTED TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
WHAT IS IT LIKE WHEN YOU'VE HAD
A MONTH AWAY FROM TALKING ABOUT
IMPEACHMENT AND NOW YOU HAVE TO
GEAR BACK UP FOR NEXT TUESDAY
AND REMEMBER ALL THOSE NAMES AND
ALL OF THOSE THINGS?
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO WANT TO DO THAT.
>> Jesse: IT IS LIKE BEING ON
INJURED RESERVE AND THEN YOU
HAVE TO GO OUT AND PLAY THE GAME
AND YOU JUST HAVE TO REMEMBER
THE PLAYBOOK.
>> Dana: THAT IS A VERY GOOD
ANALOGY, THAT WAS EXCELLENT.
>> Jesse: THANK YOU, THAT WAS
A SPORTS ANALOGY.
>> Dana: DOES IT EVER WORK OUT
FOR THE INJURED PLAYER?
>> Jesse: JUST LOOK AT LSU,
TIGHT END, HE HAD A HUGE GAME
AND HE WAS HURT ALL YEAR.
>> Juan: WHAT ABOUT
LOU GEHRIG'S CUSTOMER ASKED B1
WHAT ABOUT LOU GARRETT
>> Dana: I DO THINK IT'S TIME
TO HEAR BACK UP TO TALK ABOUT
IMPEACHMENT AGAIN?
>> Jesse: IT IS, BUT I'M READY
FOR THAT, AND NOW WE KNOW THE
NANCY PELOSI HELD THE ARTICLE.
SHE WANTED TO SQUEEZE
SUCCESSIONS OUT OF
MITCH McCONNELL.
SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE
DEMOCRATS COULD PARTICIPATE IN
THE DEBATE TONIGHT ON CNN.
I WILL BE WATCHING "HANNITY,"
THOUGH.
THIRDLY, SHE WANTS TO HANDCUFF
BERNIE AND LIZ WARREN IN THE
SWAMP WHILE HER FAVORITE
CANDIDATE, JOE BIDEN, GETS TO
ROAM FREE AND CLOSE BY HIMSELF
IN IOWA.
ALL OF THOSE REASONS ARE PURELY
PARTISAN, POLITICAL REASONS.
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH
FULFILLING HER DUTY TO CARRY OUT
HER CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY OF CHECK
AND BALANCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
BUT WE KNEW THAT.
IF I WERE A REPUBLICAN IN THE
SENATE I WOULD SAY NO WITNESSES.
THE HOUSE HAD ITS CHANCE, THAT
IS NOT OUR JOB TO DO WITNESSES.
PLUS IT WAS A RADICALLY UNFAIR
DEAL IN THE HOUSE.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET THAT
FAIRNESS FROM US.
AND IF YOU WANT TO ROLL THE DICE
ON WITNESSES, I THINK THERE IS
MORE OF A RISK FOR DEMOCRATS AND
THEN THERE ARE REPUBLICANS
BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING
TO ACQUIT THE PRESIDENT.
BUT WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW IS
WHAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE
TESTIMONY UNDER OATH FROM, I
DON'T KNOW, WHERE IS HUNTER?
OR HOW ABOUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER?
OR SHIFTY SCHIFF.
OR TO LOOP UP.
ANYTHING COULD COME OUT OF THAT
WHICH COULD BURY BIDEN'S
CAMPAIGN FROM THE GET-GO.
AND I DON'T THINK THE BOLTON
TESTIMONY HURTS THE PRESIDENT AT
ALL.
>> Dana: I IMAGINE YOU DON'T
SEE IT THAT WAY.
>> Juan: FIRST OF ALL, IF I
WAS A SENATOR -- JESSE HAS THE
ADVANTAGE WITH THE SKINNY TIE.
I HAVE A FAT GUY.
THE ADVANTAGES THEY WILL BE
GIVING THE
ARTICLES TOMORROW AND TWO, THE
SELECTION IS THE SELECTION OF MN
SELECTION IS THE SELECTION OF MG
SELECTION IS THE SELECTION OF MR
SELECTION IS THE SELECTION OF MS
SELECTION IS THE SELECTION OF MA
SELECTION IS THE SELECTION OF MD
SELECTION IS THE SELECTION OF MH
SELECTION IS THE SELECTION OF MW
WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH HOW THE
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT, ABOUT A SIX
DAY PROCESS.
I THINK WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT
TWO WEEKS.
I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T THINK
YOU CAN ANY LONGER UNDERESTIMATE
NANCY PELOSI.
YES THERE WERE STORIES,
INCLUDING STORIES ABOUT
DEMOCRATS RELIGHTING THE
TRANSMISSION OF THE ARTICLES BUT
I THINK WHAT YOU SAID IS RIGHT.
CLEARLY THERE'S A TREMENDOUS
FOCUS ON THE REPUBLICANS ON
ADMITTING WITNESSES AND
DOCUMENTS AND HAVING A FULL
TRIAL.
THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY
SPEEDY ACQUITTAL, WHICH IS
INITIALLY WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE
AND SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL,
THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER, WERE
THINKING ABOUT.
I WITH A HUNTER BIDEN, HE WILL
NEVER BE A WITNESS BECAUSE THE
MODERATE REPUBLICANS, WHO ARE
TRYING TO ASSERT THEMSELVES
BECAUSE OF NANCY PELOSI,
THEY SAY, SURE, BRING IN
WITNESSES.
>> Jesse: IT'S WHERE IS HUNTER
BIDEN.
SPEAK TO SOMEONE AT MSNBC WAS
BEING A LITTLE CRITICAL --
>> Greg: HOW DARE THEY, DANA?
MY WORD.
>> THIS IS ONE OF THE REASON
TRUMP WANTS YOU TO WATCH CNN
INSTEAD OF MSNBC BECAUSE HE
KNOWS ON MSNBC THERE WILL BE NO
ONE DEFENDING HIM BECAUSE WE
DON'T BRING ON LIARS.
CNN HAS PEOPLE ON THEIR PAYROLL
TO TELL THEIR LIVES TO THE CNN
AUDIENCE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CNN
HOUR FOR SOME NUMBER OF MINUTES.
>> Dana: A LITTLE CNN-MSNBC
ARGUMENTATION.
>> Greg: IF YOU'RE GOING TO
PUT ON A PLAY YOU HAVE TO PICK
YOUR OWN PERFORMERS.
HOW DARE YOU BRING ON ANYONE WHO
MIGHT DISAGREE?
VIEWERS NEED TO BE WHERE THE
MEDIA WILL TURN UP THE FLAME ON
THE RHETORIC BECAUSE OF THE
PROBLEM YOU STATED BEFORE, THAT
THERE HAS BEEN THIS LAPSE IN
TIME LIKE SUMMER VACATION.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET THE KIDS BACK
IN SCHOOL SO THEY WILL TRY TO
MAKE THIS HICCUP INTO A HEART
ATTACK WITH THEIR RHETORIC.
WHAT I RESENT -- AND I'M GOING
TO BETRAY MY OWN WEAKNESS HERE.
I RESENT THAT THE DEMOCRATS IN
THE MEDIA ARE PLAYING THE TUNE
AND MAKING US DANCE.
WE HAVE TO DANCE TO THIS TUNE.
THIS IS NOT A STORY APPEARED IN
THE MEDIA IS LIKE A DRUNKEN
COWBOY FIRING SIX SHOOTERS AT
OUR FEET SAYING DANCE, DANCE!
SO WE HAVE TO DANCE AND PRETEND
THAT THIS IS REAL.
WE KNOW THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL
EXERCISE TO SCORE POINTS AGAINST
TRUMP.
WE KNOW THAT'S ALL IT IS.
THE DEMS -- I GET IT, THE PERSON
GIVING THE ADVICE TO THE
DEMOCRATS, THEY'RE BASICALLY
GOING THROUGH A WEDDING EVEN
THOUGH ALL SIGNS POINT TO
DIVORCE.
WE KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO
END.
TRUMP IS GOING TO MAINTAIN HIS
PRESIDENCY AND HE IS GOING TO
REDEFINE IMPEACHMENT AS A BADGE
OF HONOR.
AND I'M TRYING TO TELL THE
DEMOCRATS, THIS IS GOING TO HURT
YOU AND THEY DON'T LISTEN.
WHY DON'T THEY LISTEN?
I WILL TELL YOU WHY, SUNK COSTS,
THE INVESTMENT IN SOMETHING THAT
YOU DON'T GET BACK.
IN A RELATIONSHIP, YOU STAY WITH
A BAD RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE OF A
SONG COST.
YOU STAY AT A JOB FOREVER
BECAUSE OF A SUNK COST.
THAT IS WHAT IMPEACHMENT IS TO
THEM, AND EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT
THAT THEY ARE SEEING IS A REAL
INVESTMENT, SO THEY CAN'T
ABANDON ALL THAT WORK.
WHEN THEY SHOULD JUST STEP BACK
AND GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WON,
WE POKED DADDY IN THE EYE WITH
IMPEACHMENT, WE CAN MOVE ON.
THEY'RE GOING TO CHASE IT DOWN,
HURT THEM AND BE LIKE TRUMP.
>> Emily: HERE ARE MY TWO
ANALOGIES FOR THIS.
FIRST IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING, THIS IS THE JESSE SMALLO
SAYING, THIS IS THE JESSE SMALLF
POLITICS PAID THE DEMOCRATS CAN
NEVER GO BACK ON THEIR WORK,
THEY HAVE TO SEE IT THROUGH.
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING,
THEY ARE SO FAR DOWN --
>> Greg: THEY ARE SMOLLETT
ING.
>> Emily: YES.
UNLIKE THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL,
EVERYONE CARES ABOUT THE
FOOTBALL GAME.
WE WANT THAT GUY TO COME AND
PLAY, EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW
WHAT IS HAPPENING.
WITH THIS, NOW, WE DON'T, THIS
IS LIKE WHEN YOU GO ALL GEARED
UP TO GO SKIING AND YOU HAVE ON
YOUR LAYERS AND YOU ALMOST GET
TO THE CHAIRLIFT AND THEN YOU
HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM AND
YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK
TO THE BATHROOM.
NO ONE CARES, NO ONE IS GOING TO
REMEMBER THIS AND BY THE WAY,
THIS IS THE SENATE'S OPPORTUNITY
TO SHOW A MEASURED, IMPARTIAL
RESPONSE THAT THE HOUSE
THEATRICS WERE ANYTHING BUT.
IF THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS, ARE
THE MEDIA HORRORS THEY CONTINUE
TO BE, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT
RHETORIC BUT HOPEFULLY THE
HOPEFULLY THE SENATORS WILL STAY
AWAY FROM THAT.
>> Dana: I WILL NEVER FORGET
THAT SKIING ANALOGY.
>> Greg: WHY DON'T YOU DO WHAT
MOST PEOPLE DO AND JUST LET IT
GO BECAUSE MIKE USUALLY IN AN

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