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Senator Doug Jones (D-AL) tells Chris Hayes the federal government should consider bailing out employers who continue to pay furloughed employees' wages amid the coronavirus pandemic. Aired on 03/19/2020.


Senate Republicans released a list of Obama administration officials who sought to "unmask" names of Americans in intelligence reports in the weeks before President Donald Trump took office, the latest salvo to discredit the FBI's Russia investigation and accuse the previous administration of wrongdoing over the prosecution of Trump's first national security adviser, Michael Flynn.
Senate Homeland Security Chairman Ron Johnson and Sen. Chuck Grassley released a document that was declassified last week by acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell, which names Obama administration officials who "may have received" Flynn's identity in National Security Agency intelligence reports after requests to unmask Americans.
On their own, the documents do not prove any wrongdoing. The unmasking requests are a routine part of intelligence work, and there's no evidence that the requests were made for political purposes. The National Security Agency said in its declassified memo disclosing the names that all of the officials had the authority to view the reports and the NSA's standard procedures were followed.
In the NSA foreign intelligence reports, the names of Americans are redacted, or "masked." Certain authorized US officials have the authority to request the names of those individuals if they have a justifiable reason. As a result, when the officials made the unmasking requests declassified on Wednesday, they wouldn't have known whether Flynn was the individual whose identity was redacted.
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Despite no scientific research showing its effectiveness, President Donald Trump said the U.S. has bought almost 30 million doses of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID-19. Trump continues to push the drug, despite his top health expert warning that the evidence for it is "anecdotal." White House Correspondent Patsy Widakuswara has this story.
The death toll in the United Kingdom continues to surge, with almost a thousand deaths in the past 24 hours.
More than 60,000 people have been infected across the country, including Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
He remains in intensive care, but his condition is said to be improving.
Al Jazeera's Neave Barker reports from London.
The number of people dying from COVID-19 in New York state continues to slowly drop, with 478 fatalities tallied on Sunday. It was a third straight day of decreases and the lowest death toll since April 1, when 432 people died. (April 20)

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>> KATE BROWN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
YOUR TIME. FOR MORE ON WHERE WE ARE ON THIS
FOR MORE ON WHERE WE ARE ON THIS CRISIS AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT,
CRISIS AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT, I WANT TO BRING IN DOUG JONES OF
I WANT TO BRING IN DOUG JONES OF ALABAMA AND SENATOR, LET ME
ALABAMA AND SENATOR, LET ME START WITH YOUR HOME STATE.
START WITH YOUR HOME STATE. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE SEEN LARGE
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE SEEN LARGE OUTBREAKS IN CONCENTRATED IN
OUTBREAKS IN CONCENTRATED IN DIFFERENT LARGE METRO AREAS,
DIFFERENT LARGE METRO AREAS, THERE ARE I THINK AS OF NOW, 68
THERE ARE I THINK AS OF NOW, 68 CONFIRMED CASES IN ALABAMA.
CONFIRMED CASES IN ALABAMA. ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT YOUR
ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT YOUR STATE HAS THE CAPACITY,
STATE HAS THE CAPACITY, PREPARATION AND SORT OF
PREPARATION AND SORT OF AWARENESS AMONG CITIZENS TO BE
AWARENESS AMONG CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO COMBAT THIS, SHOULD
ABLE TO COMBAT THIS, SHOULD THERE BE A SEVERE OUTBREAK?
THERE BE A SEVERE OUTBREAK? >> YES, AND NO.
>> YES, AND NO. I THINK THE STATE IS DOING A
I THINK THE STATE IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB OF TRYING TO USE
WONDERFUL JOB OF TRYING TO USE THE RESOURCES THEY GOT BUT JUST
THE RESOURCES THEY GOT BUT JUST LIKE GOVERNOR BROWN WAS TALKING,
LIKE GOVERNOR BROWN WAS TALKING, WE NEED MORE RESOURCES, TOO.
WE NEED MORE RESOURCES, TOO. WE NEED MORE TESTS.
WE NEED MORE TESTS. WE NEED MORE SWABS.
WE NEED MORE SWABS. WE NEED MORE PPE.
WE NEED MORE PPE. WE NEED ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT
WE NEED ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT OTHER STATES DO.
OTHER STATES DO. OUR GOVERNOR TOOK A BOLD STEP
OUR GOVERNOR TOOK A BOLD STEP TODAY, I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT
TODAY, I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT STEP TO TRY TO SHUT DOWN THE
STEP TO TRY TO SHUT DOWN THE STATE OF ALABAMA ESSENTIALLY.
STATE OF ALABAMA ESSENTIALLY. CLOSE THE BARS.
CLOSE THE BARS. CLOSE THE RESTAURANTS.
CLOSE THE RESTAURANTS. THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING IS WHAT
THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING IS WHAT IS SO IMPORTANT AS WE LOOK
IS SO IMPORTANT AS WE LOOK FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE’VE GOT 68
FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE’VE GOT 68 OR SO CASES NOW, WE KNOW THAT’S
OR SO CASES NOW, WE KNOW THAT’S GOING TO GO UP BUT IF WE CAN
GOING TO GO UP BUT IF WE CAN BLUNT THAT CURVE BY TAKING BOLD
BLUNT THAT CURVE BY TAKING BOLD STEPS NOW, IT WILLING A BIG
STEPS NOW, IT WILLING A BIG HELP.
HELP. >> WE’VE SEEN WIDE DESPERATE
>> WE’VE SEEN WIDE DESPERATE REACTIONS AMONG DIFFERENT
REACTIONS AMONG DIFFERENT AMERICANS TO HOW SERIOUSLY TO
AMERICANS TO HOW SERIOUSLY TO TAKE THIS.
TAKE THIS. EVERYONE SAW THE FOOTAGE OF
EVERYONE SAW THE FOOTAGE OF SPRING BREAK AND MARDI GRAS AND
SPRING BREAK AND MARDI GRAS AND THE BEACH AND EVERYONE HAS IN
THE BEACH AND EVERYONE HAS IN THEIR LIVES, PEOPLE PARTICULARLY
THEIR LIVES, PEOPLE PARTICULARLY 70 AND OLDER, DO YOU THINK THE
70 AND OLDER, DO YOU THINK THE FOLKS IN YOUR STATE RECOGNIZE
FOLKS IN YOUR STATE RECOGNIZE WHAT THIS IS?
WHAT THIS IS? >> YES AND NO.
>> YES AND NO. THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO.
DO. AS YOU GO BACK AND I’M OBVIOUSLY
AS YOU GO BACK AND I’M OBVIOUSLY IN D.C.
IN D.C. I HAVEN’T BEEN HOME SINCE MONDAY
I HAVEN’T BEEN HOME SINCE MONDAY BUT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, PEOPLE
BUT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT.
ARE DOING THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, OUR BEACHES
AT THE SAME TIME, OUR BEACHES WERE CROWDED WITH SPRING
WERE CROWDED WITH SPRING BREAKERS.
BREAKERS. I TALKED TO FOLKS TODAY WHERE WE
I TALKED TO FOLKS TODAY WHERE WE GOT OFFICIALS AROUND THE STATE
GOT OFFICIALS AROUND THE STATE THAT STILL BELIEVE THIS IS
THAT STILL BELIEVE THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A HOAX AND NOT A BIG
SOMEWHAT OF A HOAX AND NOT A BIG DEAL.
DEAL. I THINK WHAT THE GOVERNOR DID
I THINK WHAT THE GOVERNOR DID TODAY WAS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE
TODAY WAS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT’S TELEGRAPHING THIS IS VERY,
IT’S TELEGRAPHING THIS IS VERY, VERY SERIOUS AND SHE’S GOING
VERY SERIOUS AND SHE’S GOING TO -- WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES
TO -- WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS
BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE TO STAY OPEN AND DO
THAT HAVE TO STAY OPEN AND DO THINGS TO HELP US GET THROUGH
THINGS TO HELP US GET THROUGH THIS.
THIS. THE FACT IS IT’S A BOLD, BOLD
THE FACT IS IT’S A BOLD, BOLD STEP FOR HER AND THE APPROPRIATE
STEP FOR HER AND THE APPROPRIATE STEP THAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO
STEP THAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT.
GET THAT MESSAGE OUT. >> THAT’S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR
>> THAT’S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR KAY IVY OF YOUR STATE.
KAY IVY OF YOUR STATE. THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IN THE
THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IN THE SENATE, MITCH MCCONNELL OUTLINED
SENATE, MITCH MCCONNELL OUTLINED SOME OF THEIR PLANS FOR THE NEXT
SOME OF THEIR PLANS FOR THE NEXT RESCUE BILL THAT’S COMING
RESCUE BILL THAT’S COMING FORWARD.
FORWARD. THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE
THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE NOTABLE I WANT TO ASK ABOUT.
NOTABLE I WANT TO ASK ABOUT. ONE IS THERE IS CASH ASSISTANCE
ONE IS THERE IS CASH ASSISTANCE BUT IT WOULD MISS ABOUT 70
BUT IT WOULD MISS ABOUT 70 MILLION AMERICANS AT THE BOTTOM
MILLION AMERICANS AT THE BOTTOM OR GIVE THEM DIMINISHED AMOUNT
OR GIVE THEM DIMINISHED AMOUNT AMOUNTING DEPENDING HOW MUCH
AMOUNTING DEPENDING HOW MUCH THEY MADE IN 2018 OR IF THEY
THEY MADE IN 2018 OR IF THEY HAVE NO TAX LIABILITY.
HAVE NO TAX LIABILITY. SHOULD IT BE UNIVERSAL?
SHOULD IT BE UNIVERSAL? SHOULD IT GO TO THOSE PEOPLE,
SHOULD IT GO TO THOSE PEOPLE, SOME PROPELS FLOATED TO
SOME PROPELS FLOATED TO DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES?
DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES? >> NO, I WANT TO LOOK AT THIS.
>> NO, I WANT TO LOOK AT THIS. OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS
OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN THE SENATE IS WE’VE
WE HAVE IN THE SENATE IS WE’VE BEEN HERE SINCE MONDAY, WE’RE
BEEN HERE SINCE MONDAY, WE’RE ALL JUST NOW SEEING IT ON
ALL JUST NOW SEEING IT ON THURSDAY EVENING AND THAT’S NOT
THURSDAY EVENING AND THAT’S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS.
THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS. SO WE’RE STILL STUDYING THAT AND
SO WE’RE STILL STUDYING THAT AND I’VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE AND
I’VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE AND I WANT TO GET -- I WANT TO GET
I WANT TO GET -- I WANT TO GET THE ASSISTANCE TO THE PEOPLE
THE ASSISTANCE TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT THE MOST.
THAT NEED IT THE MOST. AND I’M NOT SURE THIS BILL DOES
AND I’M NOT SURE THIS BILL DOES THAT, BUT IT’S AT LEAST A STEP
THAT, BUT IT’S AT LEAST A STEP WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT. THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE
THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT TO GET OUR
NEED TO BE LOOKING AT TO GET OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND INTO THE
SMALL BUSINESSES AND INTO THE HANDS OF THE WORKERS THEMSELVES.
HANDS OF THE WORKERS THEMSELVES. THAT THE EXPANDING UNEMPLOYMENT
THAT THE EXPANDING UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION, I’VE GOT AN IDEA
COMPENSATION, I’VE GOT AN IDEA OUT THERE I TALKED TO SOME OF MY
OUT THERE I TALKED TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THAT FOLKS TEND
COLLEAGUES ABOUT THAT FOLKS TEND TO LIKE A LITTLE BIT THAT WE MAY
TO LIKE A LITTLE BIT THAT WE MAY TRY TO PUSH AND THAT IS USING
TRY TO PUSH AND THAT IS USING OUR PAYROLL SYSTEM THAT WE’VE
OUR PAYROLL SYSTEM THAT WE’VE GOT.
GOT. WE GOT COMPANIES THAT DO
WE GOT COMPANIES THAT DO PAYROLLS AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR
PAYROLLS AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR THESE SMALL BUSINESSES.
THESE SMALL BUSINESSES. USE THEM, SET UP A FUND THEY CAN
USE THEM, SET UP A FUND THEY CAN DRAW ON BECAUSE THEIR
DRAW ON BECAUSE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE. YOU CAN GET THE FUNDS TO
YOU CAN GET THE FUNDS TO DIRECTLY TO THESE PEOPLE WITH
DIRECTLY TO THESE PEOPLE WITH THEIR SALARY OR A PROPORTION OF
THEIR SALARY OR A PROPORTION OF THEIR SALARY VERY, VERY QUICKLY
THEIR SALARY VERY, VERY QUICKLY IF WE DO.
IF WE DO. >> WAIT --
>> WAIT -- >> THIS IS A STEP.
>> THIS IS A STEP. >> YOU WANT TO USE LIKE ADP AND
>> YOU WANT TO USE LIKE ADP AND PAYROLL COMPANIES AS AN
PAYROLL COMPANIES AS AN ARCHITECTURE TO ESSENTIALLY GIVE
ARCHITECTURE TO ESSENTIALLY GIVE PEOPLE THEIR WAGES BACKSTOP
PEOPLE THEIR WAGES BACKSTOP MAYBE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
MAYBE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYING IT OR PROVIDING IT IN
PAYING IT OR PROVIDING IT IN SOMEWAY?
SOMEWAY? >> PROVIDING IT.
>> PROVIDING IT. I MEAN, THAT IS PART OF THE
I MEAN, THAT IS PART OF THE PROVIDING INSTEAD OF THIS $1,000
PROVIDING INSTEAD OF THIS $1,000 CHECK.
CHECK. YOU PROVIDE THE FUND THAT WILL
YOU PROVIDE THE FUND THAT WILL BE ADMINISTERED BY THE FED, LET
BE ADMINISTERED BY THE FED, LET ADP AND OTHERS DO IT FOR THEIR
ADP AND OTHERS DO IT FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS.
CUSTOMERS. IT COULD BE THEIR FULL SALARY OR
IT COULD BE THEIR FULL SALARY OR A PORTION.
A PORTION. YOU DO IT IN THE FORM OF A LEAN
YOU DO IT IN THE FORM OF A LEAN TO MAKE SURE IT’S A LOAN NOW,
TO MAKE SURE IT’S A LOAN NOW, BUT IF THEY BRING THESE PEOPLE
BUT IF THEY BRING THESE PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, THE LOAN IS
BACK TO WORK, THE LOAN IS FORGIVEN.
FORGIVEN. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE TO
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE TO DO SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY IF WE
DO SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY IF WE WORK ON IT.
WORK ON IT. >> DOUG JONES, BUSY MAN IN THE

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