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MSNBC 7 Nov 2019

RPT: Ukraine's President Was Prepared To Bow To Trump's Demands

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Amb. Wendy Sherman tells Lawrence O'Donnell that new reporting claiming that Ukraine's president was going to give in to Trump's demands to make a public statement about investigating Joe Biden in exchange for military aid is "incredibly tragic." Joyce Vance says that the President Trump's conduct is a "crime". Aired on 11/07/19.


In an explosive report, The New York Times reveals that President Zelensky was so desperate that he was prepared to deliver a message that he would investigate the Bidens in an interview scheduled with CNN. Unwilling to lose the military aid he badly needed, Zelensky decided to bow to Trump's demands. Aired on 11/8/19.
Zelenskiy insisted Tuesday that "it is impossible to put pressure on me."
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>>> WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS
>>> WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS REPORTING TONIGHT ABOUT JUST HOW
REPORTING TONIGHT ABOUT JUST HOW CLOSE DONALD TRUMP CAME TO
CLOSE DONALD TRUMP CAME TO FORCING THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE
FORCING THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE TO SAY -- INVESTIGATIONS, BIDEN
TO SAY -- INVESTIGATIONS, BIDEN AND CLINTON -- THE WORDS
AND CLINTON -- THE WORDS PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTED HIM TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTED HIM TO SAY.
SAY. AFTER GORDON SONDLAND TOLD THE
AFTER GORDON SONDLAND TOLD THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE UKRAINE
PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE UKRAINE WOULD GET MOW MORE MILITARY AID
WOULD GET MOW MORE MILITARY AID FROM THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT A
FROM THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT A PUBLIC STATEMENT BY PRESIDENT
PUBLIC STATEMENT BY PRESIDENT ZELENSKY ABOUT UKRAINE
ZELENSKY ABOUT UKRAINE INVESTIGATING JOE BIDEN AND
INVESTIGATING JOE BIDEN AND HILLARY CLINTON, PRESIDENT
HILLARY CLINTON, PRESIDENT ZELENSKY’S STAFF BEGAN DEBATING
ZELENSKY’S STAFF BEGAN DEBATING WHETHER THEY SHOULD COMPLY WITH
WHETHER THEY SHOULD COMPLY WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DEMAND AND IF
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DEMAND AND IF SO EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT
SO EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SHOULD SAY.
ZELENSKY SHOULD SAY. THE FUTURE OF THEIR COUNTRY WAS
THE FUTURE OF THEIR COUNTRY WAS AT STAKE, EVERYTHING WAS AT
AT STAKE, EVERYTHING WAS AT STAKE.
STAKE. AND SO THEY WENT SO FAR AS TO
AND SO THEY WENT SO FAR AS TO SCHEDULE AN INTERVIEW ON CNN
SCHEDULE AN INTERVIEW ON CNN WITH FAREED ZAKARIA, IN WHICH
WITH FAREED ZAKARIA, IN WHICH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY MIGHT HAVE
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY MIGHT HAVE SAID WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTED
SAID WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTED HIM TO SAY OR SOMETHING CLOSE TO
HIM TO SAY OR SOMETHING CLOSE TO WHAT DONALD TRUMP WANTED HIM TO
WHAT DONALD TRUMP WANTED HIM TO SAY.
SAY. BUT AS THAT INTERVIEW APPROACHED
BUT AS THAT INTERVIEW APPROACHED WHERE PRESIDENT ZELENSKY MIGHT
WHERE PRESIDENT ZELENSKY MIGHT HAVE SAID THE MAGIC WORDS INTO A
HAVE SAID THE MAGIC WORDS INTO A MICROPHONE AS DONALD TRUMP
MICROPHONE AS DONALD TRUMP WANTED, POLITICO PUBBISHLISHED A
WANTED, POLITICO PUBBISHLISHED A ARTICLE BASED ON A LEAK THAT
ARTICLE BASED ON A LEAK THAT MILITARY ASSISTANCE FOR UKRAINE
MILITARY ASSISTANCE FOR UKRAINE WAS BEING HELD UP.
WAS BEING HELD UP. AND THEN "THE WASHINGTON POST"
AND THEN "THE WASHINGTON POST" PUBLISHED A SIMILAR STORY.
PUBLISHED A SIMILAR STORY. AND AS "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
AND AS "THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTS TONIGHT, WORD OF THE
REPORTS TONIGHT, WORD OF THE FREEZE IN MILITARY AID HAD
FREEZE IN MILITARY AID HAD LEAKED OUT, AND CONGRESS WAS IN
LEAKED OUT, AND CONGRESS WAS IN AN UPROAR.
AN UPROAR. TWO DAYS BEFORE THE SCHEDULED
TWO DAYS BEFORE THE SCHEDULED INTERVIEW, THE TRUMP
INTERVIEW, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RELEASED THE
ADMINISTRATION RELEASED THE ASSISTANCE AND MR. ZELENSKY’S
ASSISTANCE AND MR. ZELENSKY’S OFFICE QUICKLY CANCELED THE
OFFICE QUICKLY CANCELED THE INTERVIEW.
INTERVIEW. NOT ONLY HAD THE NEWS LEAKED OUT
NOT ONLY HAD THE NEWS LEAKED OUT THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS HOLDING UP
THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS HOLDING UP ASSISTANCE TO UKRAINE, BUT WHAT
ASSISTANCE TO UKRAINE, BUT WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ALREADY
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ALREADY KNEW WAS THAT A WHISTLE-BLOWER
KNEW WAS THAT A WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT HAD BEEN FILED AGAINST
COMPLAINT HAD BEEN FILED AGAINST THE PRESIDENT THAT WAS A VERY
THE PRESIDENT THAT WAS A VERY ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF
ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S EXTORTIONIST
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S EXTORTIONIST TELEPHONE CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZE
TELEPHONE CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZE ZELENSKY.
ZELENSKY. JOINING OUR DISCUSSION NOW IS
JOINING OUR DISCUSSION NOW IS JOYCE VANCE AND AMBASSADOR WENDY
JOYCE VANCE AND AMBASSADOR WENDY SHERMAN, FORMER UNDER-SECRETARY
SHERMAN, FORMER UNDER-SECRETARY OF STATE FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS
OF STATE FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND
IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND AN MSNBC GLOBAL CONTRIBUTOR.
AN MSNBC GLOBAL CONTRIBUTOR. AS YOU READ THIS ACCOUNT, THIS
AS YOU READ THIS ACCOUNT, THIS KIND OF DAY BY DAY ACCOUNT OF
KIND OF DAY BY DAY ACCOUNT OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN UKRAINE,
WHAT WAS GOING ON IN UKRAINE, AIDES TO THE PRESIDENT OF
AIDES TO THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE THINKING MAYBE WE DO
UKRAINE THINKING MAYBE WE DO HAVE TO SAY THIS IN ORDER TO
HAVE TO SAY THIS IN ORDER TO SAVE THE COUNTRY, WERE IT NOT
SAVE THE COUNTRY, WERE IT NOT FOR THE WHISTLE-BLOWER AND WERE
FOR THE WHISTLE-BLOWER AND WERE IT NOT FOR POLITICO, WHICH IS TO
IT NOT FOR POLITICO, WHICH IS TO SAY WERE IT NOT FOR A FREE PRESS
SAY WERE IT NOT FOR A FREE PRESS AND A WHISTLE-BLOWER, WHO KNOWS
AND A WHISTLE-BLOWER, WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED.
WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED. >> INDEED, LAWRENCE.
>> INDEED, LAWRENCE. THIS IS INCREDIBLY TRAGIC.
THIS IS INCREDIBLY TRAGIC. YOU KNOW, WE HEARD FROM GEORGE
YOU KNOW, WE HEARD FROM GEORGE KENT TODAY IN THAT TRANSCRIPT
KENT TODAY IN THAT TRANSCRIPT THAT HE’S A FOREIGN SERVICE
THAT HE’S A FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICER WHO BELIEVES HIS JOB IS
OFFICER WHO BELIEVES HIS JOB IS TO REALLY INSIST ON THE RULE OF
TO REALLY INSIST ON THE RULE OF LAW.
LAW. AND IT APPEARS THAT MASHA
AND IT APPEARS THAT MASHA YOVANOVITCH, THE AMBASSADOR,
YOVANOVITCH, THE AMBASSADOR, LOST HER JOB BECAUSE SHE PUSHED
LOST HER JOB BECAUSE SHE PUSHED FOR THE END OF CORRUPTION AND
FOR THE END OF CORRUPTION AND THE RULE OF LAW OF IN UKRAINE,
THE RULE OF LAW OF IN UKRAINE, AND THAT WASN’T LIKED BECAUSE IT
AND THAT WASN’T LIKED BECAUSE IT GOT RUDY GIULIANI AND IN
GOT RUDY GIULIANI AND IN PRESIDENT TRUMP’S WAY TO GET
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S WAY TO GET DONE WHAT THEY WANTED TO GET
DONE WHAT THEY WANTED TO GET DONE AND THE DEAL THEY WANTED TO
DONE AND THE DEAL THEY WANTED TO MAKE WITH ZELENSKY.
MAKE WITH ZELENSKY. SO IT’S JUST RATHER HEART
SO IT’S JUST RATHER HEART BREAKING TO HEAR THAT A YOUNG,
BREAKING TO HEAR THAT A YOUNG, NEW LEADER OF A COUNTRY WHO’S
NEW LEADER OF A COUNTRY WHO’S TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND
TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND BRING THAT RULE OF LAW TO A
BRING THAT RULE OF LAW TO A COUNTRY AND REALLY ESCAPE FROM
COUNTRY AND REALLY ESCAPE FROM THE SHADOW OF RUSSIA IS INDEED
THE SHADOW OF RUSSIA IS INDEED ALMOST TO THE POINT BECAUSE OVER
ALMOST TO THE POINT BECAUSE OVER 14,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED SINCE
14,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED SINCE 2014, 24,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
2014, 24,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INJURED, HE DOESN’T WANT MORE
INJURED, HE DOESN’T WANT MORE PEOPLE TO DIE, THE JAVELINS
PEOPLE TO DIE, THE JAVELINS WOULD REALLY CREATE FEAR AMONG
WOULD REALLY CREATE FEAR AMONG THE RUSSIANS.
THE RUSSIANS. THEY COULD DEAL WITH THE TANKS.
THEY COULD DEAL WITH THE TANKS. HERE WE HAVE THIS YOUNG
HERE WE HAVE THIS YOUNG PRESIDENT TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT
PRESIDENT TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, OUR FOREIGN SERVICE
THING, OUR FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICERS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT
OFFICERS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
THING. AND YET HE HAD TO THINK ABOUT
AND YET HE HAD TO THINK ABOUT SERIOUSLY MAKING THIS DEAL IN
SERIOUSLY MAKING THIS DEAL IN MANY WAYS WITH THE DEVIL.
MANY WAYS WITH THE DEVIL. >> JOYCE VANCE, WHAT’S YOUR
>> JOYCE VANCE, WHAT’S YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU HEAR
REACTION WHEN YOU HEAR REPUBLICANS SAY, LOOK, IN THE
REPUBLICANS SAY, LOOK, IN THE END UKRAINE GOT THE AID SO
END UKRAINE GOT THE AID SO WHAT’S THE PROBLEM?
WHAT’S THE PROBLEM? >> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS
>> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION,
WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, LAWRENCE, IS THAT SO MUCH
LAWRENCE, IS THAT SO MUCH HAPPENS EVERY DAY THAT IT’S HARD
HAPPENS EVERY DAY THAT IT’S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF IT.
TO KEEP TRACK OF IT. BUT I CAN REMEMBER BACK IN THE
BUT I CAN REMEMBER BACK IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE MUELLER
EARLY DAYS OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION WHERE REPUBLICANS
INVESTIGATION WHERE REPUBLICANS SAID, YOU KNOW, IT’S ONE THING
SAID, YOU KNOW, IT’S ONE THING IF IT’S JUST COLLUDING.
IF IT’S JUST COLLUDING. IF THERE WAS AN ACTUAL CRIME,
IF THERE WAS AN ACTUAL CRIME, THEN WE CAN TALK.
THEN WE CAN TALK. BUT AS LONG AS THERE’S NOT AN
BUT AS LONG AS THERE’S NOT AN ACTUAL CRIME, THERE’S NOTHING
ACTUAL CRIME, THERE’S NOTHING SERIOUS HERE.
SERIOUS HERE. AND WHAT WE HAVE WITH TRUMP’S
AND WHAT WE HAVE WITH TRUMP’S CONDUCT IN UKRAINE IS AN ACTUAL
CONDUCT IN UKRAINE IS AN ACTUAL CRIME.
CRIME. IT BRIBERY STATUTE MAKES IT
IT BRIBERY STATUTE MAKES IT ILLEGAL FOR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL,
ILLEGAL FOR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, A PUBLIC OFFICIAL TO SEEK
A PUBLIC OFFICIAL TO SEEK SOMETHING THAT’S OF PERSONAL
SOMETHING THAT’S OF PERSONAL VALUE TO THEM IN EXCHANGE FOR
VALUE TO THEM IN EXCHANGE FOR BEING INFLUENCED IN AN OFFICIAL
BEING INFLUENCED IN AN OFFICIAL ACTION.
ACTION. WE WAVE THROUGH ALL THIS BUT AT
WE WAVE THROUGH ALL THIS BUT AT BOTTOM WHAT WE HAVE IS A CRIME.
BOTTOM WHAT WE HAVE IS A CRIME. THERE’S NO OTHER WAY OF LOOKING
THERE’S NO OTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS, AND THAT MAKES THE
AT THIS, AND THAT MAKES THE RESPONSE, THE LINES OF ATTACK
RESPONSE, THE LINES OF ATTACK THAT WE SEE FROM REPUBLICANS ALL
THAT WE SEE FROM REPUBLICANS ALL THE MORE PER PLEXING.
THE MORE PER PLEXING. >> AND WENDY SHERMAN, WHAT’S
>> AND WENDY SHERMAN, WHAT’S YOUR REACTION TO WHAT WE’RE
YOUR REACTION TO WHAT WE’RE READING ABOUT THE UKRAINE SIDE
READING ABOUT THE UKRAINE SIDE OF ALL THIS?
OF ALL THIS? HERE THEY HAVE AMERICAN
HERE THEY HAVE AMERICAN OFFICIALS, GORDON SONDLAND,
OFFICIALS, GORDON SONDLAND, THESE OFFICIALS TRYING TO GIVE
THESE OFFICIALS TRYING TO GIVE THEM EXACT WORDSING OF WHAT THEY
THEM EXACT WORDSING OF WHAT THEY WANT THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE TO
WANT THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE TO SAY, AND THERE’S A LOT OF
SAY, AND THERE’S A LOT OF RESISTANCE.
RESISTANCE. THEY ARE RESISTING.
THEY ARE RESISTING. THEY RECOGNIZE IN UKRAINE WHAT’S
THEY RECOGNIZE IN UKRAINE WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS.
WRONG WITH THIS. AND THEY DELAY AND DELAY AS MUCH
AND THEY DELAY AND DELAY AS MUCH AS THEY CAN AND THEY SCHEDULE
AS THEY CAN AND THEY SCHEDULE THAT FAREED ZAKARIA INTERVIEW
THAT FAREED ZAKARIA INTERVIEW FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS DOWN THE
FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS DOWN THE ROAD.
ROAD. AND THEY’RE JUST CONSTANTLY
AND THEY’RE JUST CONSTANTLY TRYING NOT TO DO THIS THING THAT
TRYING NOT TO DO THIS THING THAT DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING TO FORCE
DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING TO FORCE THEM TO DO.
THEM TO DO. >> INDEED, THAT’S SORT OF THE
>> INDEED, THAT’S SORT OF THE GOOD NEWS, LAWRENCE.
GOOD NEWS, LAWRENCE. PRESIDENT ZELENSKY AND THE
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM KNEW THIS WAS
PEOPLE AROUND HIM KNEW THIS WAS WRONG.
WRONG. THEY DIDN’T WANT TO GET IN THE
THEY DIDN’T WANT TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF AMERICAN DOMESTIC
MIDDLE OF AMERICAN DOMESTIC POLITICS.
POLITICS. THEY DIDN’T WANT TO DO THIS DEAL
THEY DIDN’T WANT TO DO THIS DEAL WITH DONALD TRUMP BROUGHT TO
WITH DONALD TRUMP BROUGHT TO THEM BY RUDY GIULIANI AND BY
THEM BY RUDY GIULIANI AND BY GORDON SONDLAND.
GORDON SONDLAND. THEY KNEW THAT IT WAS WRONG, AND
THEY KNEW THAT IT WAS WRONG, AND YET THE SAFETY, SECURITY OF
YET THE SAFETY, SECURITY OF THEIR COUNTRY -- YOU KNOW, THERE
THEIR COUNTRY -- YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A REPORT IN THE GEORGE KENT
WAS A REPORT IN THE GEORGE KENT TESTIMONY THAT INDEED THE
TESTIMONY THAT INDEED THE PRESIDENT CHANGED HIS VIEW OF
PRESIDENT CHANGED HIS VIEW OF UKRAINE AFTER PHONE CALLS WITH
UKRAINE AFTER PHONE CALLS WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN AND WITH VICTOR
VLADIMIR PUTIN AND WITH VICTOR ORBAN OF HUNGARY, BOTH PEOPLE
ORBAN OF HUNGARY, BOTH PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE UKRAINE’S FUTURE
WHO DO NOT HAVE UKRAINE’S FUTURE IN THEIR MINDS UNLESS THAT
IN THEIR MINDS UNLESS THAT FUTURE BECOMES PART OF THEIR
FUTURE BECOMES PART OF THEIR ORBIT.
ORBIT. IT’S REALLY DISTRESSING WHAT THE
IT’S REALLY DISTRESSING WHAT THE PRESIDENT TRIED TO DO HERE.
PRESIDENT TRIED TO DO HERE. AND THE ONLY GOOD NEWS IN ALL OF
AND THE ONLY GOOD NEWS IN ALL OF THIS IS THAT PRESIDENT ZELENSKY
THIS IS THAT PRESIDENT ZELENSKY AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM
AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM RESISTED AS LONG AS THEY COULD,
RESISTED AS LONG AS THEY COULD, UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS GOING DOWN
UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS GOING DOWN HERE AND WISH THEY DIDN’T FIND
HERE AND WISH THEY DIDN’T FIND THEMSELVES IN THIS PLACE.
THEMSELVES IN THIS PLACE. >> JOYCE VANCE, I WANT TO GET
>> JOYCE VANCE, I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION TO WHAT WE MIGHT
YOUR REACTION TO WHAT WE MIGHT EXPECT IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
EXPECT IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS NEXT WEEK BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN
NEXT WEEK BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN SUCH A SPECTACLE THE REPUBLICANS
SUCH A SPECTACLE THE REPUBLICANS MAKE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE
MAKE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT IT’S HARD TO PREDICT, IT’S A
IT’S HARD TO PREDICT, IT’S A LEVEL OF CHAOS EVEN EXPERIENCED
LEVEL OF CHAOS EVEN EXPERIENCED PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON CAN’T QUITE
PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON CAN’T QUITE PREDICT.
PREDICT. YOU’VE COME FROM THE WORLD OF
YOU’VE COME FROM THE WORLD OF COURTROOMS WHERE THERE’S SO MANY
COURTROOMS WHERE THERE’S SO MANY MORE CONSTRAINTS ON BEHAVIOR,
MORE CONSTRAINTS ON BEHAVIOR, THERE’S SO MUCH MORE ORDER, IT’S
THERE’S SO MUCH MORE ORDER, IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT OF HAND
IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT OF HAND THE WAY THESE REPUBLICANS DO IN
THE WAY THESE REPUBLICANS DO IN THESE HEARINGS.
THESE HEARINGS. HAVE YOU AS YOU’VE WATCHED THESE
HAVE YOU AS YOU’VE WATCHED THESE HEARINGS THOUGHT OF ANY WAY
HEARINGS THOUGHT OF ANY WAY PROCEDURALLY GIVEN THAT THEY
PROCEDURALLY GIVEN THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, BUT ANY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, BUT ANY WAY FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO TRY TO
WAY FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO TRY TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER THE
MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT
PROCEEDINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT’S HAPPENING IS ACTUALLY
WHAT’S HAPPENING IS ACTUALLY RELEVANT TO THE INVESTIGATION?
RELEVANT TO THE INVESTIGATION? >> YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY HAVE I
>> YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY HAVE I WATCHED THESE HEARINGS,
WATCHED THESE HEARINGS, LAWRENCE, I’VE LIVED A LITTLE
LAWRENCE, I’VE LIVED A LITTLE BIT OF IT.
BIT OF IT. THIS SUMMER I TESTIFIED ON THE
THIS SUMMER I TESTIFIED ON THE HILL ON THE HOUSE SIDE ON THE
HILL ON THE HOUSE SIDE ON THE MUELLER REPORT AND EXPERIENCED
MUELLER REPORT AND EXPERIENCED FIRST-HAND WHAT IT’S LIKE TO BE
FIRST-HAND WHAT IT’S LIKE TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BACK AND
IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BACK AND FORTH FIVE-MINUTES PER SIDE
FORTH FIVE-MINUTES PER SIDE BANTERING.
BANTERING. AND I WAS STRUCK BY HOW SERIOUS
AND I WAS STRUCK BY HOW SERIOUS THE QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT
THE QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT SUBSTANCE FROM THE DEMOCRATIC
SUBSTANCE FROM THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE AND HOW FLIPPANT AND SORT
SIDE AND HOW FLIPPANT AND SORT OF SPURIOUS THE REPUBLICAN
OF SPURIOUS THE REPUBLICAN COMMENTS WERE.
COMMENTS WERE. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT’S WHAT YOU
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT’S WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT OF
DO WHEN YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT OF SUBSTANCE THAT YOU CAN MAKE.
SUBSTANCE THAT YOU CAN MAKE. THE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL IN
THE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL IN THAT POSITION NOW WHEN IT COMES
THAT POSITION NOW WHEN IT COMES TO UKRAINE.
TO UKRAINE. WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT NEXT WEEK
WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT NEXT WEEK IS THIS PROCESS CHANGE THE
IS THIS PROCESS CHANGE THE DEMOCRATS HAVE WRITTEN INTO THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE WRITTEN INTO THE RULES WHERE THESE HEARINGS WILL
RULES WHERE THESE HEARINGS WILL OPEN WITH 45 MINUTES OF
OPEN WITH 45 MINUTES OF QUESTIONING ON EACH SIDE BY
QUESTIONING ON EACH SIDE BY STAFF ATTORNEYS.
STAFF ATTORNEYS. THAT I THINK IS A TOTAL GAME
THAT I THINK IS A TOTAL GAME CHANGER.
CHANGER. IT GIVES EACH SIDE AND
IT GIVES EACH SIDE AND PARTICULARLY THE DEMOCRATS HERE
PARTICULARLY THE DEMOCRATS HERE WHO ARE SORT OF THE PROPONENTS
WHO ARE SORT OF THE PROPONENTS OF THIS ACTIVITY, THE
OF THIS ACTIVITY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THE AMERICAN
OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC A COHESIVE NARRATIVE.
PUBLIC A COHESIVE NARRATIVE. IT’S HARD TO SIT DOWN AND READ
IT’S HARD TO SIT DOWN AND READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE TRANSCRIPTS
THROUGH ALL OF THESE TRANSCRIPTS FOR PEOPLE WITH BUSY LIVES AND
FOR PEOPLE WITH BUSY LIVES AND DAY JOB.
DAY JOB. BUT THEY’LL BE ABLE TO WATCH I
BUT THEY’LL BE ABLE TO WATCH I THINK IN PRETTY SHORT PRETTY
THINK IN PRETTY SHORT PRETTY PRECISE SNIPPETS THE KEY MOMENTS
PRECISE SNIPPETS THE KEY MOMENTS HERE, AND THE KEY INFORMATION
HERE, AND THE KEY INFORMATION GETS CONVEYED IN A MUCH MORE
GETS CONVEYED IN A MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL WAY.

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