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MSNBC 7 Apr 2020

Keys To Combating Coronavirus Stress And Loneliness

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Almost half of Americans said they felt lonely before the coronavirus hit and many states required people to self-isolate at home. While self-quarantining is the best way to flatten the curve, there are potential costs to mental health and well-being. Staying informed is vital to combatting those impacts, and there are proven ways to do it. Developmental psychologist Susan Pinker and attorney Jarrett Adams, who served over 9 years in prison on a wrongful conviction that was overturned, talk to MSNBC's Ari Melber about the science and experience of isolation - and how to combat it - in this special discussion. Aired on 04/07/2020.


President Trump and his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, spoke on the phone today about the U.S. response to the coronavirus pandemic. CBSN political reporter Caitlin Huey-Burns and CBS News political correspondent Ed O'Keefe join CBSN with the latest developments.
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced that New York just had the highest single-day death toll from coronavirus so far in his daily briefing. Aired on 4/8/2020.
House Rules Committee meets to discuss remote voting and $3 trillion coronavirus relief bill. Nearly 3 million Americans filed jobless claims last week, pushing the total number of benefit seekers to roughly 36.5 million in the past eight weeks.
Recent research shows Americans are feeling higher stress levels and anxiety due to the coronavirus pandemic. One America's Stephanie Myers spoke with licensed clinical psychotherapist Erin Wiley who shared some ways to reduce stress.

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>>> WELCOME BACK.
>>> WELCOME BACK. YOU KNOW, TONIGHT, MOST
YOU KNOW, TONIGHT, MOST AMERICANS ARE SHELTERING IN
AMERICANS ARE SHELTERING IN PLACE AT HOME.
PLACE AT HOME. MANY ENTERING THEIR THIRD WEEK
MANY ENTERING THEIR THIRD WEEK UNDER THESE KIND OF LIMITS.
UNDER THESE KIND OF LIMITS. AND BEYOND ALL THE URGENT HEALTH
AND BEYOND ALL THE URGENT HEALTH RISKS WE HAVE BEEN COVERING,
RISKS WE HAVE BEEN COVERING, THERE IS ALSO THE IMPACT OF
THERE IS ALSO THE IMPACT OF ISOLATION AND LONELINESS OVER
ISOLATION AND LONELINESS OVER THE LONG-TERM.
THE LONG-TERM. IT IS HARD TO BE CUT OFF FROM
IT IS HARD TO BE CUT OFF FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
OTHER PEOPLE. LISTEN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO SOME
LISTEN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO SOME PEOPLE WHO FELT LONELY AS THEY
PEOPLE WHO FELT LONELY AS THEY DESCRIBE WHAT THEY’RE GOING
DESCRIBE WHAT THEY’RE GOING THROUGH.
THROUGH. >> IN THAT MOMENT, I’VE NEVER
>> IN THAT MOMENT, I’VE NEVER FELT SO ISOLATED.
FELT SO ISOLATED. >> DEFINITELY HAVE FELT THE
>> DEFINITELY HAVE FELT THE IMPACT OF NOT HAVING ANY
IMPACT OF NOT HAVING ANY PHYSICAL, FACE-TO-FACE CONTACT
PHYSICAL, FACE-TO-FACE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE, BECAUSE YOU JUST
WITH PEOPLE, BECAUSE YOU JUST FEEL ALONE AND LIKE THERE’S
FEEL ALONE AND LIKE THERE’S NOBODY AROUND TO HELP.
NOBODY AROUND TO HELP. >> I THINK THE THING ABOUT BEING
>> I THINK THE THING ABOUT BEING LONELY IS THAT IT MAKES IT FEEL
LONELY IS THAT IT MAKES IT FEEL LIKE NO ONE REALLY KNOWS YOU.
LIKE NO ONE REALLY KNOWS YOU. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DISAPPEARED, JUST SLIP AWAY AND
DISAPPEARED, JUST SLIP AWAY AND THERE’D BE NO REAL RECORD OF WHO
THERE’D BE NO REAL RECORD OF WHO YOU WERE.
YOU WERE. >> JUST DISAPPEARED.
>> JUST DISAPPEARED. THOSE ARE JUST A FEW VOICEMAILS
THOSE ARE JUST A FEW VOICEMAILS THAT ARE LEFT ON ENGLAND’S
THAT ARE LEFT ON ENGLAND’S LONELINESS HOT LINE.
LONELINESS HOT LINE. THEY CREATED IT FOR PEOPLE WHO
THEY CREATED IT FOR PEOPLE WHO FELT ISOLATED LONG BEFORE THIS
FELT ISOLATED LONG BEFORE THIS PANDEMIC.
PANDEMIC. AND HERE IN THE U.S., IT’S AN
AND HERE IN THE U.S., IT’S AN ONGOING CHALLENGE.
ONGOING CHALLENGE. YOU KNOW, ALMOST HALF OF
YOU KNOW, ALMOST HALF OF AMERICANS SAY THEY FEEL ALONE,
AMERICANS SAY THEY FEEL ALONE, SOME ARE ALL OF THE TIME,
SOME ARE ALL OF THE TIME, ACCORDING TO A SURVEY THAT CAME
ACCORDING TO A SURVEY THAT CAME OUT RECENTLY.
OUT RECENTLY. THE FACT IS, IT’S HARD TO BE
THE FACT IS, IT’S HARD TO BE ALONE IN NORMAL TIMES LET ALONE
ALONE IN NORMAL TIMES LET ALONE TO BE BASICALLY PUSHED INTO THIS
TO BE BASICALLY PUSHED INTO THIS SOCIAL ISOLATION IN THIS
SOCIAL ISOLATION IN THIS PANDEMIC.
PANDEMIC. EXPERTS HAVE FOUND HUMANS NEED
EXPERTS HAVE FOUND HUMANS NEED OTHER HUMANS.
OTHER HUMANS. WE NEED CONTACT AND SOCIALIZING
WE NEED CONTACT AND SOCIALIZING FOR OUR OWN HEALTH.
FOR OUR OWN HEALTH. AND SOME OF THE RESEARCH ON THIS
AND SOME OF THE RESEARCH ON THIS COMES FROM STUDYING PRISONS AND
COMES FROM STUDYING PRISONS AND SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. NO ONE IS SUGGESTING THAT JUST
NO ONE IS SUGGESTING THAT JUST QUARANTINES ON YOUR COUCH IS
QUARANTINES ON YOUR COUCH IS LIKE A PRISON, BUT THE STUDIES
LIKE A PRISON, BUT THE STUDIES ARE IMPORTANT.
ARE IMPORTANT. IT SHOWS THAT BEING CUT OFF FROM
IT SHOWS THAT BEING CUT OFF FROM PEOPLE OR HELD IN SOLITARY
PEOPLE OR HELD IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT INCREASES ANXIETY,
CONFINEMENT INCREASES ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, ANGER, PARANOIA, CAN
DEPRESSION, ANGER, PARANOIA, CAN EVEN STOKE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS IN
EVEN STOKE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS IN PEOPLE THAT OTHERWISE MAY NOT
PEOPLE THAT OTHERWISE MAY NOT HAVE HAD THEM.
HAVE HAD THEM. SO, WHAT KNOWLEDGE AND
SO, WHAT KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE CAN PEOPLE DRAW ON TO
EXPERIENCE CAN PEOPLE DRAW ON TO GET THROUGH THESE HARD TIMES,
GET THROUGH THESE HARD TIMES, AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF A
AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF A PANDEMIC AND PEOPLE GETTING SICK
PANDEMIC AND PEOPLE GETTING SICK AND DYING AROUND US?
AND DYING AROUND US? WELL, RIGHT NOW, WE’VE CONVENED
WELL, RIGHT NOW, WE’VE CONVENED A SPECIAL DISCUSSIONS TO GO A
A SPECIAL DISCUSSIONS TO GO A LITTLE DEEPER ON THIS.
LITTLE DEEPER ON THIS. WE’RE JOINED BY ATTORNEY JARED
WE’RE JOINED BY ATTORNEY JARED ADAMS.
ADAMS. HE SERVED OVER NINE YEARS IN
HE SERVED OVER NINE YEARS IN PRISON ON A WRONGFUL CONVICTION
PRISON ON A WRONGFUL CONVICTION THAT WAS OVERTURNED.
THAT WAS OVERTURNED. HE WENT ON TO LAW SCHOOL AND A
HE WENT ON TO LAW SCHOOL AND A PRESTIGIOUS CLERKSHIP ON THE
PRESTIGIOUS CLERKSHIP ON THE SEVENTH CIRCUIT COURT OF
SEVENTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS.
APPEALS. ADAMS SPENT ABOUT TWO OF THOSE
ADAMS SPENT ABOUT TWO OF THOSE YEARS IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
YEARS IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AND EXPERIENCED AND INFORMS HIS
AND EXPERIENCED AND INFORMS HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THESE ISSUES AND
PERSPECTIVE ON THESE ISSUES AND HIS CURRENT CIVIL RIGHTS WORK.
HIS CURRENT CIVIL RIGHTS WORK. HE’S JOINED US ON-AIR BEFORE.
HE’S JOINED US ON-AIR BEFORE. WE ALSO HAVE PSYCHOLOGIST SUSAN
WE ALSO HAVE PSYCHOLOGIST SUSAN PINKER, WHO HAS OVER 25 YEARS OF
PINKER, WHO HAS OVER 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN CLINICAL PRACTICE.
EXPERIENCE IN CLINICAL PRACTICE. SHE’S THE AUTHOR OF "THE VILLAGE
SHE’S THE AUTHOR OF "THE VILLAGE EFFECT" ABOUT HOW FACE-TO-FACE
EFFECT" ABOUT HOW FACE-TO-FACE CONTACT SHAPES OUR HEALTH.
CONTACT SHAPES OUR HEALTH. IMPORTANT STUFF AND TOUGH TOPICS
IMPORTANT STUFF AND TOUGH TOPICS LIKE SO MUCH THESE DAYS.
LIKE SO MUCH THESE DAYS. MY SPECIAL THANKS TO SUSAN AND
MY SPECIAL THANKS TO SUSAN AND JARED FOR JOINING US.
JARED FOR JOINING US. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO.
>> HELLO. >> JARED, LET ME START WITH YOUR
>> JARED, LET ME START WITH YOUR MORE EXTREME EXPERIENCE, NOT
MORE EXTREME EXPERIENCE, NOT WHAT EVERYONE IS GOING THROUGH
WHAT EVERYONE IS GOING THROUGH NOW, BUT YOU ARE SUCH AN
NOW, BUT YOU ARE SUCH AN EXTRAORDINARY STORY.
EXTRAORDINARY STORY. WHAT DID YOU STRUGGLE WITH IN
WHAT DID YOU STRUGGLE WITH IN ISOLATION AND SOLITARY
ISOLATION AND SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AND WHAT INSIGHTS,
CONFINEMENT AND WHAT INSIGHTS, IF ANY, DO YOU DRAW FROM IT?
IF ANY, DO YOU DRAW FROM IT? >> WELL, THANK YOU, ARI, AGAIN,
>> WELL, THANK YOU, ARI, AGAIN, FOR HAVING ME ON, BUT IT’S LIKE
FOR HAVING ME ON, BUT IT’S LIKE YOU OPENED UP THE SEGMENT AND
YOU OPENED UP THE SEGMENT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IT PALES IN
SAY, YOU KNOW, IT PALES IN COMPARISON TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
COMPARISON TO PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED AND DON’T HAVE
INCARCERATED AND DON’T HAVE ANYONE AROUND THEM, BUT I WILL
ANYONE AROUND THEM, BUT I WILL SAY THIS.
SAY THIS. COMMUNICATION IS WHAT GOT ME
COMMUNICATION IS WHAT GOT ME THROUGH THAT.
THROUGH THAT. I HAD AN AUNTIE THAT WOULD SEND
I HAD AN AUNTIE THAT WOULD SEND ME BIBLE VERSES, YOU KNOW,
ME BIBLE VERSES, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYS TO MOTIVATE ME
DIFFERENT WAYS TO MOTIVATE ME AND SHE TOLD ME ONE THING THAT
AND SHE TOLD ME ONE THING THAT STUCK WITH ME, SHE SAID, LOOK.
STUCK WITH ME, SHE SAID, LOOK. IN A DIFFICULT TIME LIKE THIS,
IN A DIFFICULT TIME LIKE THIS, YOU HAVE TO TELL YOURSELF THAT
YOU HAVE TO TELL YOURSELF THAT EACH DAY, YOU HAVE THE
EACH DAY, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT THE NEXT.
OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT THE NEXT. AND IT WAS A HEALTHY WAY FOR ME
AND IT WAS A HEALTHY WAY FOR ME TO COPE WITH IT.
TO COPE WITH IT. AND I ALSO DID THIS, AS WELL.
AND I ALSO DID THIS, AS WELL. I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY, WITH THE
I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY, WITH THE TIME THAT I WAS THERE, TO INVEST
TIME THAT I WAS THERE, TO INVEST IN MYSELF, TO GO BACK AND
IN MYSELF, TO GO BACK AND RE-EVALUATE MYSELF, RE-EVALUATE
RE-EVALUATE MYSELF, RE-EVALUATE GOALS AND TO PSYCHOLOGICALLY
GOALS AND TO PSYCHOLOGICALLY REMOVE MYSELF FROM THE
REMOVE MYSELF FROM THE ISOLATION, ALTHOUGH I WAS
ISOLATION, ALTHOUGH I WAS PHYSICALLY ISOLATED.
PHYSICALLY ISOLATED. >> WOW.
>> WOW. I MEAN, YOU PUT THAT VERY
I MEAN, YOU PUT THAT VERY CLEARLY.
CLEARLY. SUSAN, IS THAT POSSIBLE?
SUSAN, IS THAT POSSIBLE? HOW DO WE DO THAT?
HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND WHAT DOES YOUR WORK AND
AND WHAT DOES YOUR WORK AND RESEARCH SUGGEST ABOUT THE KEYS?
RESEARCH SUGGEST ABOUT THE KEYS? >> WELL, THAT’S AN EXTREME
>> WELL, THAT’S AN EXTREME SITUATION THAT JARED WENT
SITUATION THAT JARED WENT THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, THAT --
THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, THAT -- ISOLATING PEOPLE HAS
ISOLATING PEOPLE HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED TO PUNISH
HISTORICALLY BEEN USED TO PUNISH THEM THROUGHOUT HISTORY, BECAUSE
THEM THROUGHOUT HISTORY, BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST SERIOUS AND
IT IS THE MOST SERIOUS AND PAINFUL KIND OF TORTURE YOU CAN
PAINFUL KIND OF TORTURE YOU CAN INFLICT ON SOMEBODY, PRETTY
INFLICT ON SOMEBODY, PRETTY MUCH.
MUCH. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE’RE
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING NOW IS NOT AT ALL
EXPERIENCING NOW IS NOT AT ALL LIKE THAT, WE ARE WITHDRAWN FROM
LIKE THAT, WE ARE WITHDRAWN FROM OUR SOCIAL CONTACTS AND LET ME
OUR SOCIAL CONTACTS AND LET ME BE CLEAR, EVEN THOUGH THE
BE CLEAR, EVEN THOUGH THE EFFECTS OF THAT FEEL PAINFUL,
EFFECTS OF THAT FEEL PAINFUL, THEY FEEL PHYSICALLY PAINFUL,
THEY FEEL PHYSICALLY PAINFUL, YOU KNOW, I’D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE
YOU KNOW, I’D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING IS AN
THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING IS AN ABSOLUTE NECESSARY STEP RIGHT
ABSOLUTE NECESSARY STEP RIGHT NOW AND EVEN IF -- EVEN IF
NOW AND EVEN IF -- EVEN IF LONELINESS HAS DAMAGING EFFECTS,
LONELINESS HAS DAMAGING EFFECTS, AND WE KNOW IT DOES, IT REDUCES
AND WE KNOW IT DOES, IT REDUCES OUR LIFESPAN, IT REDUCES OUR
OUR LIFESPAN, IT REDUCES OUR IMMUNITY TO VIRUSES,
IMMUNITY TO VIRUSES, PARADOXICALLY, AS YOU’VE POINTED
PARADOXICALLY, AS YOU’VE POINTED OUT, IT MAKES US ANGRY, CAN MAKE
OUT, IT MAKES US ANGRY, CAN MAKE US DEPRESSED.
US DEPRESSED. BUT OF COURSE, IN OUR CURRENT
BUT OF COURSE, IN OUR CURRENT SITUATION, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN
SITUATION, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCE RIGHT NOW,
SOCIAL DISTANCE RIGHT NOW, KEEPING IN MIND THAT BEING ALONE
KEEPING IN MIND THAT BEING ALONE IS NOT THE SAME THING AS BEING
IS NOT THE SAME THING AS BEING LONELY, AS JARED JUST REFERRED
LONELY, AS JARED JUST REFERRED TO.
TO. BEING LONELY IS A MORE
BEING LONELY IS A MORE EXISTENTIAL ANGST, FEELING THAT
EXISTENTIAL ANGST, FEELING THAT YOU BELONG ANYWHERE.
YOU BELONG ANYWHERE. AND IT’S VERY IMPORTANT TO
AND IT’S VERY IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH THOSE TWO.
DISTINGUISH THOSE TWO. >> WHAT ABOUT, SUSAN, FIRST,
>> WHAT ABOUT, SUSAN, FIRST, CONTROL?
CONTROL? AGAIN, YOU’VE BOTH EMPHASIZED,
AGAIN, YOU’VE BOTH EMPHASIZED, AS WE DID IN OUR SETUP, WE’RE
AS WE DID IN OUR SETUP, WE’RE NOT EQUATING THE TWO, BUT WHEN
NOT EQUATING THE TWO, BUT WHEN YOU DON’T HAVE CONTROL, WHEN
YOU DON’T HAVE CONTROL, WHEN PEOPLE DO FEEL THAT, FOR
PEOPLE DO FEEL THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, ON TOP OF GOVERNMENT
EXAMPLE, ON TOP OF GOVERNMENT RULES THAT THEY STAY HOME RIGHT
RULES THAT THEY STAY HOME RIGHT NOW, MANY PEOPLE HAVE LOST JOBS
NOW, MANY PEOPLE HAVE LOST JOBS OR HAVE LOVED ONES WHO LOST
OR HAVE LOVED ONES WHO LOST JOBS, THERE IS THIS STRESS THAT
JOBS, THERE IS THIS STRESS THAT I DON’T THINK WE’RE FULLY
I DON’T THINK WE’RE FULLY CAPTURING, MAYBE BECAUSE IT’S
CAPTURING, MAYBE BECAUSE IT’S HARD TO DO.
HARD TO DO. I CERTAINLY DON’T THINK WE’RE
I CERTAINLY DON’T THINK WE’RE ALWAYS CAPTURING IT IN THE
ALWAYS CAPTURING IT IN THE NATIONAL DISCOURSE SUCH AS IT
NATIONAL DISCOURSE SUCH AS IT IS, THAT PEOPLE FEEL THIS
IS, THAT PEOPLE FEEL THIS TREMENDOUS LOSS OF CONTROL OF
TREMENDOUS LOSS OF CONTROL OF DAILY LIFE.
DAILY LIFE. WHAT ABOUT THAT?
WHAT ABOUT THAT? >> WELL, THAT UNCERTAINTY REALLY
>> WELL, THAT UNCERTAINTY REALLY ADDS TO THE GENERAL FEELING OF
ADDS TO THE GENERAL FEELING OF ANGST THAT’S PERVADING SOCIETY
ANGST THAT’S PERVADING SOCIETY RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK THE
RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT ASPECT OF CONTROL THAT
IMPORTANT ASPECT OF CONTROL THAT YOU MENTION IS TO EXERT SOME
YOU MENTION IS TO EXERT SOME CONTROL OF OUR SOCIAL LIFE AS
CONTROL OF OUR SOCIAL LIFE AS MUCH AS WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.
MUCH AS WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FIND NEW FORMS
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FIND NEW FORMS OF INTIMACY, EVEN THOUGH WE
OF INTIMACY, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN’T GET TOGETHER FACE TO FACE
CAN’T GET TOGETHER FACE TO FACE WITH OUR LOVED ONES IF THEY
WITH OUR LOVED ONES IF THEY DON’T LIVE WITH US, THERE ARE
DON’T LIVE WITH US, THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO
WAYS THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM.
THEM. AND THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN
AND THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN EVEN INCREASE OUR KIND OF WEAKER
EVEN INCREASE OUR KIND OF WEAKER BONDS, BECAUSE RESEARCH SAYS
BONDS, BECAUSE RESEARCH SAYS IT’S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT WE
IT’S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT WE HOLD SO CLOSE AND SO DEAR TO US
HOLD SO CLOSE AND SO DEAR TO US THAT MATTER, BUT THE PEOPLE WE
THAT MATTER, BUT THE PEOPLE WE MEET AS WE MOVE THROUGHOUT OUR
MEET AS WE MOVE THROUGHOUT OUR DAY, AND THAT’S MUCH MORE
DAY, AND THAT’S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT, IF YOU’RE CONFINED
DIFFICULT, IF YOU’RE CONFINED INDOORS, TO KIND OF KEEP UP THAT
INDOORS, TO KIND OF KEEP UP THAT KIND OF CONTACT, YOU KNOW, MAKE
KIND OF CONTACT, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAY HI TO THE DOG
SURE THAT YOU SAY HI TO THE DOG WALKER OR THE NEIGHBOR OR YOUR
WALKER OR THE NEIGHBOR OR YOUR COLLEAGUES OR THE PERSON, THE
COLLEAGUES OR THE PERSON, THE BARISTA THAT YOU USED TO GET
BARISTA THAT YOU USED TO GET YOUR COFFEE FROM, SO, THAT’S A
YOUR COFFEE FROM, SO, THAT’S A LOT TRICKIER, I WOULD SAY.
LOT TRICKIER, I WOULD SAY. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. UNDERSTOOD.
UNDERSTOOD. JARED, YOUR VIEWS ON THAT AND I
JARED, YOUR VIEWS ON THAT AND I ALSO WANTED TO GET YOUR VIEWS ON
ALSO WANTED TO GET YOUR VIEWS ON THE ACTUAL OTHER ISSUE HERE, THE
THE ACTUAL OTHER ISSUE HERE, THE WAY THAT ALL OF THIS PLAYS OUT
WAY THAT ALL OF THIS PLAYS OUT FOR AT-RISK POPULATIONS AND THE
FOR AT-RISK POPULATIONS AND THE CURRENTLY INCARCERATED.
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED. >> YEAH, I WILL SAY THIS.
>> YEAH, I WILL SAY THIS. AGAIN, TAKING ITS TIME AND USING
AGAIN, TAKING ITS TIME AND USING IT FOR THE BEST OF US AS HUMANS
IT FOR THE BEST OF US AS HUMANS IS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE
IS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
NEED TO DO. EVERYONE, ALMOST EVERY AMERICAN,
EVERYONE, ALMOST EVERY AMERICAN, SETS A NEW YEAR’S RESOLUTION, SO
SETS A NEW YEAR’S RESOLUTION, SO EVEN THOUGH IT’S VERY EARLY IN
EVEN THOUGH IT’S VERY EARLY IN THIS NEW YEAR, THIS IS AN
THIS NEW YEAR, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK, LOOK AT
OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK, LOOK AT THAT RESOLUTION AND TO SEE, YOU
THAT RESOLUTION AND TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS WORKING OUT?
KNOW, WHAT WAS WORKING OUT? MAYBE YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE
MAYBE YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND REVISIT IT.
DRAWING BOARD AND REVISIT IT. I’LL SAY THIS, ARI.
I’LL SAY THIS, ARI. WE DON’T KNOW THE ENTIRE TOLL
WE DON’T KNOW THE ENTIRE TOLL THAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ON
THAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ON US, BECAUSE WE’RE IN THE EYE OF
US, BECAUSE WE’RE IN THE EYE OF THE STORM RIGHT NOW, IT’S NOT
THE STORM RIGHT NOW, IT’S NOT OVER WITH RIGHT NOW.
OVER WITH RIGHT NOW. BUT I DO KNOW THIS -- HUMANS ARE
BUT I DO KNOW THIS -- HUMANS ARE AMAZING IN THE RESOLVE THAT WE
AMAZING IN THE RESOLVE THAT WE HAVE.
HAVE. WE’LL GET THROUGH THIS.
WE’LL GET THROUGH THIS. WE’VE SEEN DIFFICULT TIMES AND I
WE’VE SEEN DIFFICULT TIMES AND I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL GET THROUGH
BELIEVE THAT WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS.
THIS. AND ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO GET
AND ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO GET THROUGH IT IS TO THINK ABOUT IF
THROUGH IT IS TO THINK ABOUT IF WE DIDN’T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE DIDN’T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA. THINK ABOUT IF WE DIDN’T HAVE
THINK ABOUT IF WE DIDN’T HAVE OUR CELL PHONES, THINK ABOUT HOW
OUR CELL PHONES, THINK ABOUT HOW ISOLATED WE WOULD TRULY BE THEN.
ISOLATED WE WOULD TRULY BE THEN. AND I ALSO WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF
AND I ALSO WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW, I’M
THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW, I’M WORKING ON A PETITION FOR A GUY
WORKING ON A PETITION FOR A GUY THAT I’M REPRESENTING WHO IS
THAT I’M REPRESENTING WHO IS CURRENTLY INCARCERATED IN THE
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED IN THE UNITED STATES PENITENTIARY.
UNITED STATES PENITENTIARY. LOUISIANA HAS BEEN HARD-HIT BY
LOUISIANA HAS BEEN HARD-HIT BY THIS VIRUS AND HE USED AN
THIS VIRUS AND HE USED AN ANALOGY TO ME THAT HE FEELS LIKE
ANALOGY TO ME THAT HE FEELS LIKE HE’S ON A TRAIN TRACK AND HE
HE’S ON A TRAIN TRACK AND HE CAN’T GET OFF AND HE’S HEARD OF
CAN’T GET OFF AND HE’S HEARD OF THE DEVASTATION OF THIS TRAIN IN
THE DEVASTATION OF THIS TRAIN IN OTHER TOWNS AND IT’S HEADED THIS
OTHER TOWNS AND IT’S HEADED THIS WAY.
WAY. SO, I WANT TO SAY, AS HUMANS,
SO, I WANT TO SAY, AS HUMANS, THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY RIGHT
THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO REACH OUT, TO HUG EACH
NOW TO REACH OUT, TO HUG EACH OTHER FROM THAT SOCIAL DISTANCE,
OTHER FROM THAT SOCIAL DISTANCE, BY JUST SENDING THAT EMAIL,
BY JUST SENDING THAT EMAIL, SENDING THAT TEXT AND JUST
SENDING THAT TEXT AND JUST CARING RIGHT NOW.
CARING RIGHT NOW. LOOK, WE CAN POINT FINGERS
LOOK, WE CAN POINT FINGERS LATER.
LATER. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO BE
BUT RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT EACH OTHER’S
CONCERNED ABOUT EACH OTHER’S MENTAL HEALTH AND HEALTH AFTER
MENTAL HEALTH AND HEALTH AFTER THIS, AS WELL.
THIS, AS WELL. >> APPRECIATE ALL THAT.
>> APPRECIATE ALL THAT. MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. JARED ADAMS, HAVING LIVED
JARED ADAMS, HAVING LIVED THROUGH SO MUCH, I’M GLAD TO
THROUGH SO MUCH, I’M GLAD TO RECONNECT WITH YOU.
RECONNECT WITH YOU. LIKE SO MANY ARE DOING, AT A
LIKE SO MANY ARE DOING, AT A DISTANCE RIGHT NOW.
DISTANCE RIGHT NOW. AND SUSAN PINKER, WITH ALL YOUR

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