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MSNBC 10 Dec 2019

John Durham Compromises Credibility With Public Statement On IG Report

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David Laufman, former chief of the DOJ's counterintel and export control section, talks with Rachel Maddow about how strange and inappropriate it is that John Durham, the U.S. attorney chosen by William Barr to conduct another investigation into the Trump-Russia investigation, spoke critically of the DOJ IG report while in the midst of his own investigation. Aired on 12/9/19.


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YEAR OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S TURN WHICH MEANS HE WAS THERE AT THE
WHICH MEANS HE WAS THERE AT THE OUTSET OF THE RUSSIA
OUTSET OF THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. DAVID, I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT
DAVID, I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE RESPONSE TO THIS REPORT
THE RESPONSE TO THIS REPORT TODAY.
TODAY. WE JUST DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT
WE JUST DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR
ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR PUT OUT A STATEMENT ESSENTIALLY
PUT OUT A STATEMENT ESSENTIALLY CONTESTING THE FINDINGS OF HIS
CONTESTING THE FINDINGS OF HIS OWN DEPARTMENT OF THE INSPECTOR
OWN DEPARTMENT OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL BUT THERE WAS ALSO A
GENERAL BUT THERE WAS ALSO A SECOND STATEMENT FROM JOHN
SECOND STATEMENT FROM JOHN DURHAM, THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR
DURHAM, THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR CONNECTICUT WHO HAS BEEN
CONNECTICUT WHO HAS BEEN ADDITIONALLY TASKED BY ATTORNEY
ADDITIONALLY TASKED BY ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR WITH
GENERAL WILLIAM BARR WITH LOOKING INTO OTHER ELEMENTS, A
LOOKING INTO OTHER ELEMENTS, A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THE
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. .
. >> IF YOU THINK BARR’S STATEMENT
>> IF YOU THINK BARR’S STATEMENT WAS UNUSUAL, DURHAM’S STATEMENT
WAS UNUSUAL, DURHAM’S STATEMENT IS EVEN MORE BIZARRE.
IS EVEN MORE BIZARRE. HERE YOU HAVE A SITTING
HERE YOU HAVE A SITTING PROSECUTOR CONDUCTING A PENDING
PROSECUTOR CONDUCTING A PENDING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION MAKING A
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION MAKING A PUBLIC STATEMENT SEEMING TO
PUBLIC STATEMENT SEEMING TO DENIGRATE THE SCOPE AND ADEQUACY
DENIGRATE THE SCOPE AND ADEQUACY OF THE FINDINGS OF THE IG
OF THE FINDINGS OF THE IG INVESTIGATION WHILE POINTING OUT
INVESTIGATION WHILE POINTING OUT THAT HE APPEARS TO BE IN
THAT HE APPEARS TO BE IN POSITION OF SOME SECRET
POSITION OF SOME SECRET INFORMATION FROM SOME OTHER
INFORMATION FROM SOME OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT THE IG
GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT THE IG HAD NO ACCESS TO AS IF TO
HAD NO ACCESS TO AS IF TO PRESERVE THE POSSIBILITY THAT
PRESERVE THE POSSIBILITY THAT THESE FINDINGS WILL BE
THESE FINDINGS WILL BE UNDERMINED LATER BY SOME NEW
UNDERMINED LATER BY SOME NEW REVELATIONS.
REVELATIONS. >> I MEAN, IT’S WORTH STRESSING
>> I MEAN, IT’S WORTH STRESSING THIS IS AN ACTIVE U.S. ATTORNEY
THIS IS AN ACTIVE U.S. ATTORNEY WHO IS INVOLVED IN AN ACTIVE
WHO IS INVOLVED IN AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION THAT IS
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION THAT IS PENDING, OF WHICH WE HAVE SEEN
PENDING, OF WHICH WE HAVE SEEN NO PUBLIC FACING INDICTMENTS.
NO PUBLIC FACING INDICTMENTS. EVEN IF ALL HE HAD SAID WAS
EVEN IF ALL HE HAD SAID WAS WE’RE POSITIVE THINGS HAD
WE’RE POSITIVE THINGS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SORT OF
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SORT OF CONTROVERSIAL GROUND HE’S TREAD
CONTROVERSIAL GROUND HE’S TREAD UPON, IT’S WEIRD FOR THE
UPON, IT’S WEIRD FOR THE PROSECUTOR TO TALK ABOUT HIS
PROSECUTOR TO TALK ABOUT HIS INVESTIGATION WHILE IT’S ONGOING
INVESTIGATION WHILE IT’S ONGOING PERIOD.
PERIOD. >> IT’S VERY UNCOMMON,
>> IT’S VERY UNCOMMON, PROSECUTORS SPEAK FROMOPENING
PROSECUTORS SPEAK FROMOPENING STATEMENTS, EXAMINATION OF
STATEMENTS, EXAMINATION OF WITNESSES, THEY DON’T ISSUE
WITNESSES, THEY DON’T ISSUE PRESS CONFERENCES IN THE MIDDLE
PRESS CONFERENCES IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR INVESTIGATION TO
OF THEIR INVESTIGATION TO COMMENT ON SOMEONE ELSE’S
COMMENT ON SOMEONE ELSE’S INVESTIGATION AND TO TALK ABOUT
INVESTIGATION AND TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH BETTER THEIR
HOW MUCH BETTER THEIR INVESTIGATION IS THAN THE OTHER
INVESTIGATION IS THAN THE OTHER INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. I’VE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING
I’VE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING HAPPENING.
HAPPENING. >> IS MR. DURHAM BREAKING A RULE
>> IS MR. DURHAM BREAKING A RULE AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WI --
AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WI -- BY DOING THIS.
BY DOING THIS. ARE THERE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS?
ARE THERE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS? >> THEY DIDN’T THINK THEY NEEDED
>> THEY DIDN’T THINK THEY NEEDED A RULE TO GOVRERN THIS.
A RULE TO GOVRERN THIS. IT’S UNUSUAL.
IT’S UNUSUAL. I THINK IT REFLECTS POORLY TO
I THINK IT REFLECTS POORLY TO LEND HIS NAME PREMATURELY, INTO
LEND HIS NAME PREMATURELY, INTO THIS POLITICAL ARENA BECAUSE
THIS POLITICAL ARENA BECAUSE THIS HAS THE BA TINA OF
THIS HAS THE BA TINA OF POLITICAL SUPPORT FOR BARR’S OWN

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