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MSNBC 13 Mar 2020

Global Health Expert: Federal Response To This Has Been 'So Poor'

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Dr. Ashish Jha, director of Harvard's Global Health Initiative, joins Morning Joe to discuss the latest details in the spread of the coronavirus and the staggering government response. Aired on 03/13/2020.


Laurie Garrett, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist covering global pandemics, tells Lawrence O'Donnell there has been no strategic goal in the response to coronavirus because the distinction between strategy and tactics, such as testing, has been "completely eliminated." Aired on 5/5/2020.
Some of President Trump's top economic advisers are reportedly eyeing May 1 to reopen the U.S. economy, but Mr. Trump says he will "rely heavily" on health experts to make that decision. CBS News chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett and Politico White House correspondent and associate editor Anita Kumar join Elaine Quijano to discuss Thursday's top headlines from the White House.
CGTN's Elaine Reyes discusses Wuhan reopening after more than two months of being locked down with Bei Wu, a Dean's Professor in Global Health at NYU's Rory Meyers College of Nursing. She also shared her views on how Wuhan's successful experience can inspire the rest of the world.
Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT): "Instead of using foreign aid, the President is using emergency relief in order to try to get people to do his political bidding." Aired on 3/30/20.
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PROTECT OUR LOVED ONES, PROTECT THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY THE MOST
THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY THE MOST DISADVANTAGED WHEN IT COMES TO
DISADVANTAGED WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH CARE.
HEALTH CARE. >> WELL PUT.
>> WELL PUT. ANOTHER COUNTRY HIT PARTICULARLY
ANOTHER COUNTRY HIT PARTICULARLY HARD IS IRAN.
HARD IS IRAN. IN FACT, SATELLITE IMAGES
IN FACT, SATELLITE IMAGES SUGGEST THE REGIME THERE IS
SUGGEST THE REGIME THERE IS DIGGING MASS GRAVES.
DIGGING MASS GRAVES. AS LONG AS A FOOTBALL FIELD, TO
AS LONG AS A FOOTBALL FIELD, TO HANDLE BODIES OF VICTIMS.
HANDLE BODIES OF VICTIMS. YOU’D THINK IT COULDN’T GET
YOU’D THINK IT COULDN’T GET UGLIER THAN THAT.
UGLIER THAN THAT. OUR NEXT GUEST SAYS THE UNITED
OUR NEXT GUEST SAYS THE UNITED STATES HAS HAD AN EVEN WORSE
STATES HAS HAD AN EVEN WORSE RESPONSE THAN
RESPONSE THAN JOINING US NOW, THE DIRECTOR OF
JOINING US NOW, THE DIRECTOR OF THE HARVARD GLOBAL HEALTH
THE HARVARD GLOBAL HEALTH INSTITUTE.
INSTITUTE. HE’S THE PRACTICING PHYSICIAN
HE’S THE PRACTICING PHYSICIAN AND ALSO A DOCTOR OF MEDICINE AT
AND ALSO A DOCTOR OF MEDICINE AT THE HARVARD SCHOOL.
THE HARVARD SCHOOL. HE SAYS AMERICA’S CORONA
HE SAYS AMERICA’S CORONA RESPONSE IS UNMITIGATED DISASTER
RESPONSE IS UNMITIGATED DISASTER THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BROUGHT UPON THE POPULATION.
BROUGHT UPON THE POPULATION. DOCTOR, LET’S START RIGHT THERE.
DOCTOR, LET’S START RIGHT THERE. GIVEN WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE
GIVEN WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DATA OF HOW THIS VIRUS MOVES AND
DATA OF HOW THIS VIRUS MOVES AND HOW THE UNITED STATES HAS
HOW THE UNITED STATES HAS RESPONDED, WHAT PHASE ARE WE IN,
RESPONDED, WHAT PHASE ARE WE IN, AND WHERE ARE WE HEADED?
AND WHERE ARE WE HEADED? >> GOOD MORNING, MIKA.
>> GOOD MORNING, MIKA. SO IT IS VERY PAINFUL FOR ME TO
SO IT IS VERY PAINFUL FOR ME TO USE THOSE WORDS.
USE THOSE WORDS. THE FEDERAL RESPONSE REALLY JUST
THE FEDERAL RESPONSE REALLY JUST HAS BEEN A FIASCO.
HAS BEEN A FIASCO. WE’VE HAD TWO MONTHS.
WE’VE HAD TWO MONTHS. I THINK JOE HAS BEEN BRINGING
I THINK JOE HAS BEEN BRINGING THIS POINT UP ALL MORNING.
THIS POINT UP ALL MORNING. TWO MONTHS TO GET READY.
TWO MONTHS TO GET READY. WE’RE THE ONLY MAJOR COUNTRY IN
WE’RE THE ONLY MAJOR COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT CANNOT TEST
THE WORLD THAT CANNOT TEST PEOPLE FAR MORE READILY THAN WE
PEOPLE FAR MORE READILY THAN WE ARE.
ARE. SOUTH KOREA IS DOING MORE TESTS
SOUTH KOREA IS DOING MORE TESTS EVERY DAY THAN AMERICA HAS DONE
EVERY DAY THAN AMERICA HAS DONE ALL, YOU KNOW, UNTIL TODAY.
ALL, YOU KNOW, UNTIL TODAY. SO THINGS REALLY ARE A MESS.
SO THINGS REALLY ARE A MESS. AND THE PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE
AND THE PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE 1,500 CASES, 1,600 CASES.
1,500 CASES, 1,600 CASES. THAT’S WHO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED.
THAT’S WHO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. MY BEST GUESS, AND THIS IS A
MY BEST GUESS, AND THIS IS A GUESS BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW,
GUESS BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW, WE’RE NOT DOING TESTING, BUT MY
WE’RE NOT DOING TESTING, BUT MY BEST GUESS IS MAYBE 10,000 OR
BEST GUESS IS MAYBE 10,000 OR MORE AMERICANS ARE INFECTED.
MORE AMERICANS ARE INFECTED. WE CAN’T IDENTIFY WHO THEY ARE.
WE CAN’T IDENTIFY WHO THEY ARE. WE CAN’T TAKE CARE OF THEM.
WE CAN’T TAKE CARE OF THEM. AND WE CAN’T, YOU KNOW, USE A
AND WE CAN’T, YOU KNOW, USE A TESTING-BASED STRATEGY TO GET
TESTING-BASED STRATEGY TO GET AHEAD OF THIS VIRUS.
AHEAD OF THIS VIRUS. IF AMERICANS, IF YOUR VIEWERS
IF AMERICANS, IF YOUR VIEWERS ARE WONDERING WHY ARE SCHOOLS
ARE WONDERING WHY ARE SCHOOLS SHUTTING DOWN, WHY ARE SPORT
SHUTTING DOWN, WHY ARE SPORT EVENTS CANCELED, IT IS BASICALLY
EVENTS CANCELED, IT IS BASICALLY BECAUSE THE FEDERAL RESPONSE HAS
BECAUSE THE FEDERAL RESPONSE HAS BEEN SO POOR THAT WE’RE NOW
BEEN SO POOR THAT WE’RE NOW STUCK WITH THESE VERY
STUCK WITH THESE VERY EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES, WHICH WE
EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES, WHICH WE HOPE WILL HELP.
HOPE WILL HELP. I THINK THEY WILL HELP.
I THINK THEY WILL HELP. BOY ARE WE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL
BOY ARE WE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON THIS, AND I CAN’T BELIEVE
ON THIS, AND I CAN’T BELIEVE WE’RE HERE.
WE’RE HERE. ONE MORE QUICK THING.
ONE MORE QUICK THING. YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT IS
YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT IS TWEETING ABOUT THE CDC.
TWEETING ABOUT THE CDC. THE CDC IS THE BEST PUBLIC
THE CDC IS THE BEST PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY IN THE WORLD,
HEALTH AGENCY IN THE WORLD, PERIOD.
PERIOD. WE ALL -- AROUND THE WORLD, WE
WE ALL -- AROUND THE WORLD, WE LOOK TO THE CDC.
LOOK TO THE CDC. THIS IS NOT THE CDC’S FAULT.
THIS IS NOT THE CDC’S FAULT. THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN TRYING
ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN TRYING TO DOWNPLAY IT, HAS NOT TAKEN
TO DOWNPLAY IT, HAS NOT TAKEN THIS DISEASE SERIOUSLY.
THIS DISEASE SERIOUSLY. A WEEK AGO, THE PRESIDENT WAS
A WEEK AGO, THE PRESIDENT WAS SAYING THIS IS NOTHING.
SAYING THIS IS NOTHING. NOT MUCH WORSE THAN THE FLU.
NOT MUCH WORSE THAN THE FLU. THE REST OF US WERE SCREAMING
THE REST OF US WERE SCREAMING THAT WE ARE HEADED FOR A WORLD
THAT WE ARE HEADED FOR A WORLD OF HURT.
OF HURT. THE PUBLIC HEALTH PEOPLE HAVE
THE PUBLIC HEALTH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IGNORED.
BEEN IGNORED. DR. FAUCI HAS BEEN IGNORED UNTIL
DR. FAUCI HAS BEEN IGNORED UNTIL RECENTLY.
RECENTLY. WE’VE GOT A REAL PROBLEM AHEAD
WE’VE GOT A REAL PROBLEM AHEAD OF US.
OF US. >> IT IS WILLIE GEIST.
>> IT IS WILLIE GEIST. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
MORNING. I THINK THE QUESTION MOST
I THINK THE QUESTION MOST AMERICANS FROM THE OUTSIDE WHO
AMERICANS FROM THE OUTSIDE WHO DON’T WORK IN THE WORLD OF
DON’T WORK IN THE WORLD OF MEDICINE HAVE IS, WHY CAN’T WE
MEDICINE HAVE IS, WHY CAN’T WE GET THESE TESTS OUT?
GET THESE TESTS OUT? THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AMERICA. WE HAVE INNOVATORS.
WE HAVE INNOVATORS. WE HAVE MEANS OF PRODUCTION.
WE HAVE MEANS OF PRODUCTION. WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THINGS
WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THINGS QUICKLY.
QUICKLY. WHERE ARE THE TESTS?
WHERE ARE THE TESTS? THE CLEVELAND CLINIC IS RUSHING
THE CLEVELAND CLINIC IS RUSHING OUT ITS OWN TEST, A 24-HOUR TEST
OUT ITS OWN TEST, A 24-HOUR TEST FROM THE MAYO CLINIC, FOR
FROM THE MAYO CLINIC, FOR EXAMPLE.
EXAMPLE. THESE OTHER ENTITIES ARE
THESE OTHER ENTITIES ARE STEPPING INTO THE VOID HERE.
STEPPING INTO THE VOID HERE. WHY CAN THE UNITED STATES NOT
WHY CAN THE UNITED STATES NOT QUICKLY PRODUCE THESE TESTS AND
QUICKLY PRODUCE THESE TESTS AND GET THEM TO THE HOSPITALS THAT
GET THEM TO THE HOSPITALS THAT NEED THEM?
NEED THEM? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. LOOK, ALMOST TWO MONTHS AGO,
LOOK, ALMOST TWO MONTHS AGO, W.H.O., THE WORLD HEALTH
W.H.O., THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, PUT OUT A TEST
ORGANIZATION, PUT OUT A TEST KIT.
KIT. 60 COUNTRIES DECIDED TO TAKE IT.
60 COUNTRIES DECIDED TO TAKE IT. WE WANTED TO DEVELOP OUR OWN.
WE WANTED TO DEVELOP OUR OWN. FINE, IT’S NOT CRAZY.
FINE, IT’S NOT CRAZY. WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPABILITY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPABILITY. IT’S BEEN ONE FAILURE AFTER
IT’S BEEN ONE FAILURE AFTER ANOTHER.
ANOTHER. LOOK, THIS IS NOT ABOUT RED
LOOK, THIS IS NOT ABOUT RED TAPE.
TAPE. THERE’S ALWAYS RED TAPE IN
THERE’S ALWAYS RED TAPE IN EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING. THE WHOLE POINT OF LEADERSHIP IS
THE WHOLE POINT OF LEADERSHIP IS TO CUT THROUGH THE RED TAPE.
TO CUT THROUGH THE RED TAPE. NOT TWO MONTHS LATER BUT UP
NOT TWO MONTHS LATER BUT UP FRONT.
FRONT. NOW, WE’RE PLAYING CATCHUP.
NOW, WE’RE PLAYING CATCHUP. WE HAVE THE MOST INNOVATIVE,
WE HAVE THE MOST INNOVATIVE, MOST DYNAMIC SCIENTIFIC
MOST DYNAMIC SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD.
COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL HEALTH
WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL HEALTH SYSTEM.
SYSTEM. BUT OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN AN
BUT OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN AN IMPEDENCE TO THAT, NOT BEEN
IMPEDENCE TO THAT, NOT BEEN HELPFUL.
HELPFUL. THE FDA HAS BEEN STOPPING LABS
THE FDA HAS BEEN STOPPING LABS FROM PRODUCING THE TESTS UNTIL
FROM PRODUCING THE TESTS UNTIL VERY, VERY RECENTLY.
VERY, VERY RECENTLY. >> WHY, DOCTOR?
>> WHY, DOCTOR? WHY IS THAT?
WHY IS THAT? >> YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO TELL YOU,
>> YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, YOU’LL HAVE TO ASK THE
YOU’LL HAVE TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. I AM BAFFLED BY THIS.
I AM BAFFLED BY THIS. I’VE BEEN TALKING TO MY FRIENDS
I’VE BEEN TALKING TO MY FRIENDS AT THE CDC, AT THE FDA.
AT THE CDC, AT THE FDA. THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND THE
THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND THE DECISION-MAKING THAT’S HAPPENING
DECISION-MAKING THAT’S HAPPENING AT THE SENIOR-MOST LEVELS.
AT THE SENIOR-MOST LEVELS. IT IS REALLY BAFFLING WHY IT IS
IT IS REALLY BAFFLING WHY IT IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION -- YOU
THAT THE ADMINISTRATION -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, OF COURSE,
KNOW, THERE ARE, OF COURSE, THEORIES LIKE, WELL, THE
THEORIES LIKE, WELL, THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T WANT TO KNOW
PRESIDENT DOESN’T WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY CASES THERE ARE.
HOW MANY CASES THERE ARE. WELL, YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW
WELL, YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW DOESN’T STOP THE VIRUS FROM
DOESN’T STOP THE VIRUS FROM SPREADING.
SPREADING. THE VIRUS HAS CONTINUED TO
THE VIRUS HAS CONTINUED TO SPREAD ACROSS COMMUNITIES IN
SPREAD ACROSS COMMUNITIES IN AMERICA.
AMERICA. DECIDING WE WANT TO CLOSE OUR
DECIDING WE WANT TO CLOSE OUR EYES AND PRAY THAT, LIKE, THIS
EYES AND PRAY THAT, LIKE, THIS WILL GO AWAY ISN’T A STRATEGY.
WILL GO AWAY ISN’T A STRATEGY. IT’S NOT GOING TO WORK.
IT’S NOT GOING TO WORK. >> DR. JHA, WHERE YOU ARE SEATED
>> DR. JHA, WHERE YOU ARE SEATED RIGHT NOW, YOU’RE SURROUNDED BY
RIGHT NOW, YOU’RE SURROUNDED BY SOME OF THE FINEST MEDICAL
SOME OF THE FINEST MEDICAL INSTITUTIONS IN THE WORLD IN
INSTITUTIONS IN THE WORLD IN GREATER BOSTON.
GREATER BOSTON. >> YUP.
>> YUP. >> YET, IF YOU GO 50 MILES WEST
>> YET, IF YOU GO 50 MILES WEST OF WHERE YOU’RE SEATED, IT
OF WHERE YOU’RE SEATED, IT MIMICS MUCH OF THE COUNTRY IN
MIMICS MUCH OF THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF MEDICAL FACILITIES, IN
TERMS OF MEDICAL FACILITIES, IN TERMS OF PLACES TO GO TO SEEK
TERMS OF PLACES TO GO TO SEEK TREATMENT.
TREATMENT. WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT?
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? >> LET’S TALK ABOUT WHERE I’M
>> LET’S TALK ABOUT WHERE I’M SEATED.
SEATED. IN BOSTON, SOME OF THE BEST
IN BOSTON, SOME OF THE BEST MEDICAL CENTERS, BRIGHAM, MASS
MEDICAL CENTERS, BRIGHAM, MASS GENERAL, GREAT ACADEMIC CENTERS.
GENERAL, GREAT ACADEMIC CENTERS. IF I DEVELOP SYMPTOMS OF
IF I DEVELOP SYMPTOMS OF CORONAVIRUS TODAY, AND SAY I WAS
CORONAVIRUS TODAY, AND SAY I WAS AT HIGH-RISK, IF THE QUESTION
AT HIGH-RISK, IF THE QUESTION IS, IF I CALLED UP MY DOCTOR
IS, IF I CALLED UP MY DOCTOR TODAY IN BOSTON AND SAID, I NEED
TODAY IN BOSTON AND SAID, I NEED TO BE TESTED, OR MY DOCTOR
TO BE TESTED, OR MY DOCTOR THOUGHT I NEEDED TO BE TESTED,
THOUGHT I NEEDED TO BE TESTED, CAN I GET TESTED?
CAN I GET TESTED? THE ANSWER IS NO, ALMOST SURELY
THE ANSWER IS NO, ALMOST SURELY NOT.
NOT. WE HAVE SO FEW TESTS, VERY FEW
WE HAVE SO FEW TESTS, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE TESTED.
PEOPLE ARE TESTED. 50 MILES OUT, IT IS A
50 MILES OUT, IT IS A COMPLETE --
COMPLETE -- >> DOCTOR, JOE SCAR BER LOWBOROU
>> DOCTOR, JOE SCAR BER LOWBOROU ARE WE MAKING PROGRESS?
ARE WE MAKING PROGRESS? I UNDERSTAND THEY BOTCHED
I UNDERSTAND THEY BOTCHED THINGS.
THINGS. I UNDERSTAND IT, RIGHT?
I UNDERSTAND IT, RIGHT? I’M NOT HEARING AZAR -- AZAR WAS
I’M NOT HEARING AZAR -- AZAR WAS ASKED LAST NIGHT WHEN THEY’RE
ASKED LAST NIGHT WHEN THEY’RE GOING TO GET TESTS TO PEOPLE.
GOING TO GET TESTS TO PEOPLE. HE REFUSED TO ANSWER THE
HE REFUSED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ON SEAN HANNITY’S SHOW.
QUESTION ON SEAN HANNITY’S SHOW. DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT
DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THIS WHITE HOUSE IS MOVING
THIS WHITE HOUSE IS MOVING TOWARD GETTING TESTING TO
TOWARD GETTING TESTING TO AMERICANS?
AMERICANS? WHAT THE PRESIDENT PROMISED
WHAT THE PRESIDENT PROMISED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, IF YOU WANT A
SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, IF YOU WANT A TEST YOU CAN GET A TEST, WILL
TEST YOU CAN GET A TEST, WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN?
ACTUALLY HAPPEN? >> LOOK, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE A
>> LOOK, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE A WEEK AGO, TEN DAYS AGO, HAS BEEN
WEEK AGO, TEN DAYS AGO, HAS BEEN PROMISING A MILLION TESTS ARE
PROMISING A MILLION TESTS ARE GOING OUT.
GOING OUT. WHEN I TALKED TO STATE HEALTH
WHEN I TALKED TO STATE HEALTH OFFICIALS, AND WHEN THEY’RE
OFFICIALS, AND WHEN THEY’RE TRYING TO MAKE PLANS FOR WHAT TO
TRYING TO MAKE PLANS FOR WHAT TO DO THIS WEEK AND NEXT, NO ONE
DO THIS WEEK AND NEXT, NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE
KNOWS WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM.
COMING FROM. NO ONE KNOWS WHEN THOSE TESTS
NO ONE KNOWS WHEN THOSE TESTS ARE GOING TO BE ARRIVING.
ARE GOING TO BE ARRIVING. EVERYBODY IS STARTING TO BUILD
EVERYBODY IS STARTING TO BUILD THEIR OWN TESTS BECAUSE THERE IS
THEIR OWN TESTS BECAUSE THERE IS NO FAITH THAT THE FEDERAL
NO FAITH THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE ABLE
GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER ON THE MOST BASIC
TO DELIVER ON THE MOST BASIC THING THAT IRAN AND SOUTH KOREA
THING THAT IRAN AND SOUTH KOREA AND TAIWAN CAN DELIVER TO ITS
AND TAIWAN CAN DELIVER TO ITS PEOPLE, OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
PEOPLE, OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTINUES NOT TO.
CONTINUES NOT TO. THERE IS A LACK OF FAITH, THAT
THERE IS A LACK OF FAITH, THAT WHEN THE VICE PRESIDENT SAYS
WHEN THE VICE PRESIDENT SAYS WE’LL HAVE A MILLION TESTS --
WE’LL HAVE A MILLION TESTS -- LOOK, WHEN DR. TONY FAUCI SAYS
LOOK, WHEN DR. TONY FAUCI SAYS WE’LL HAVE A MILLION TESTS, I’LL
WE’LL HAVE A MILLION TESTS, I’LL BELIEVE HIM.
BELIEVE HIM. TONY FAUCI HAS MORE CREDIBILITY
TONY FAUCI HAS MORE CREDIBILITY THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN AMERICA ON
THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN AMERICA ON THIS ISSUE.
THIS ISSUE. BUT THE POLITICAL LEADERS, IT’S
BUT THE POLITICAL LEADERS, IT’S HARD.
HARD. THEY’VE PROMISED THIS TO US, AND
THEY’VE PROMISED THIS TO US, AND THEY’RE NOT DELIVERING.
THEY’RE NOT DELIVERING. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> ALL RIGHT. DIRECTOR OF THE HARVARD GLOBAL
DIRECTOR OF THE HARVARD GLOBAL HEALTH INSTITUTE, DR. JHA, THANK
HEALTH INSTITUTE, DR. JHA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU VERY MUCH. KIND OF VERY, VERY HARD TO HEAR
KIND OF VERY, VERY HARD TO HEAR SOME OF THIS.
SOME OF THIS. >> IT IS.
>> IT IS. IT IS HARD TO HEAR, AND IT WAS
IT IS HARD TO HEAR, AND IT WAS HARD FOR HIM TO ACTUALLY SAY IT.
HARD FOR HIM TO ACTUALLY SAY IT. HE SAID IT HURT HIM TO HAVE TO
HE SAID IT HURT HIM TO HAVE TO SAY THAT.
SAY THAT. IT IS NOT LIKE WE -- STEVE
IT IS NOT LIKE WE -- STEVE RATTNER, IT IS NOT LIKE WE LACK
RATTNER, IT IS NOT LIKE WE LACK THE TECHNOLOGY.
THE TECHNOLOGY. WE OBVIOUSLY --
WE OBVIOUSLY -- >> MADE CHOICES.
>> MADE CHOICES. >> -- LACK THE WILL IN THE WHITE
>> -- LACK THE WILL IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO GET SICK AMERICANS
HOUSE TO GET SICK AMERICANS TESTED, STILL.
TESTED, STILL. >> LOOK, WE LACK THE WILL IN THE
>> LOOK, WE LACK THE WILL IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE. I THINK IT IS ALSO FAILURE
I THINK IT IS ALSO FAILURE THROUGHOUT THE GOVERNMENT IN
THROUGHOUT THE GOVERNMENT IN MANY WAYS.
MANY WAYS. YOU HEARD THE DOCTOR TALK ABOUT
YOU HEARD THE DOCTOR TALK ABOUT THE W.H.O. TESTS THAT WE DECIDED
THE W.H.O. TESTS THAT WE DECIDED NOT TO TAKE, FOR WHATEVER SET OF
NOT TO TAKE, FOR WHATEVER SET OF REASONS.
REASONS. WE PRODUCED THE TEST, DIDN’T
WE PRODUCED THE TEST, DIDN’T WORK, SO ON.
WORK, SO ON. THIS IS WHERE -- LOOK, YOU CAN
THIS IS WHERE -- LOOK, YOU CAN TRACE SOME OF THIS BACK TO THE
TRACE SOME OF THIS BACK TO THE STOCK MARKET.
STOCK MARKET. THIS IS A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN
THIS IS A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN THIS GOVERNMENT AND ITS
THIS GOVERNMENT AND ITS INABILITY TO DO EVEN THE
INABILITY TO DO EVEN THE SIMPLEST THINGS, LIKE GET A TEST
SIMPLEST THINGS, LIKE GET A TEST KIT OUT.
KIT OUT. IT IS REMARKABLE.
IT IS REMARKABLE. I THINK THE RESPONSIBILITY
I THINK THE RESPONSIBILITY REALLY GOES -- CERTAINLY STARTS
REALLY GOES -- CERTAINLY STARTS AT THE TOP, BUT I THINK IT DOES
AT THE TOP, BUT I THINK IT DOES GO FAIRLY FAR DOWN IN OUR
GO FAIRLY FAR DOWN IN OUR GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. >> JOE USED THE WORD, WE LACK
>> JOE USED THE WORD, WE LACK THE WILL.
THE WILL. WE ALSO LACK THE ABILITY.
WE ALSO LACK THE ABILITY. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER STEVE BANNON,
YOU MIGHT REMEMBER STEVE BANNON, WHEN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
WHEN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TOOK THE WHITE HOUSE, TALKING
TOOK THE WHITE HOUSE, TALKING ABOUT DECONSTRUCTING THE FEDERAL
ABOUT DECONSTRUCTING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. DECONSTRUCTING THE EXISTING
DECONSTRUCTING THE EXISTING APPARATUS OF GOVERNMENT.
APPARATUS OF GOVERNMENT. DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS
DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS PARTLY, MAYBE MOSTLY, WHAT WE’RE
PARTLY, MAYBE MOSTLY, WHAT WE’RE DEALING WITH NOW, THE
DEALING WITH NOW, THE DECONSTRUCTION, THE DESTRUCTION
DECONSTRUCTION, THE DESTRUCTION OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT HELPS
OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT HELPS PEOPLE?
PEOPLE? >> ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU’RE
>> ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU’RE GOING TO FIND THAT OUR
GOING TO FIND THAT OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE STILL PRETTY
INSTITUTIONS ARE STILL PRETTY CAPABLE.
CAPABLE. I THINK THERE’S A LOT OF
I THINK THERE’S A LOT OF RESILIENCE UNDERNEATH THE TOP OF
RESILIENCE UNDERNEATH THE TOP OF LEADERSHIP IN THE U.S.
LEADERSHIP IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. I THINK THAT’S WHY WE EVENTUALLY
I THINK THAT’S WHY WE EVENTUALLY DO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER.
DO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER. YOU HAVE STATES, YOU HAVE
YOU HAVE STATES, YOU HAVE MAYORS, YOU’VE GOT CORPORATIONS,
MAYORS, YOU’VE GOT CORPORATIONS, AND THEY HAVE THE ARCHITECTURE
AND THEY HAVE THE ARCHITECTURE TO WORK UNDER.
TO WORK UNDER. THE PROBLEM IS, WE DON’T HAVE
THE PROBLEM IS, WE DON’T HAVE TRUST IN OUR LEADERSHIP.
TRUST IN OUR LEADERSHIP. AB
AB WE REALLY DIDN’T WANT A CRISIS
WE REALLY DIDN’T WANT A CRISIS UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION.
UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION. WE’VE BEEN LUCKY THREE YEARS.
WE’VE BEEN LUCKY THREE YEARS. NOT THIS TIME.
NOT THIS TIME. >> TRUMP TRIED TO CUT THE CDC
>> TRUMP TRIED TO CUT THE CDC EVERY BUDGET HE CLOSED, AND
EVERY BUDGET HE CLOSED, AND FORTUNATELY, HE WAS STOPPED.
FORTUNATELY, HE WAS STOPPED. >> HE TRIED TO DO SO MANY THINGS
>> HE TRIED TO DO SO MANY THINGS WITH STRONG MEN LEADERS AROUND
WITH STRONG MEN LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD.
THE WORLD. THINK ABOUT THE RUSSIANS, HE WAS
THINK ABOUT THE RUSSIANS, HE WAS STOPPED.
STOPPED. THE STORY OF TRUMP IS HOW MANY
THE STORY OF TRUMP IS HOW MANY TIMES HE’S MADE EFFORTS TO SHOOT
TIMES HE’S MADE EFFORTS TO SHOOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT, BOTH DO
HIMSELF IN THE FOOT, BOTH DO MEGS ME E
MEGS ME E DOMESTICALLY AND OVERSEAS, AND
DOMESTICALLY AND OVERSEAS, AND WE ARE RESILIENT.
WE ARE RESILIENT. THAT’LL BE THE STORY LOOKING
THAT’LL BE THE STORY LOOKING BACK, DESPITE ALL THE PAIN WE’RE
BACK, DESPITE ALL THE PAIN WE’RE FEELING RIGHT NOW, THAT WE’LL
FEELING RIGHT NOW, THAT WE’LL REMEMBER.
REMEMBER. >> I HOPE SO.
>> I HOPE SO. >> IAN BREMMER AND STEVE
>> IAN BREMMER AND STEVE RATTNER, THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH.
RATTNER, THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. >>> COMING UP, WE’VE SEEN A
>>> COMING UP, WE’VE SEEN A STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN WHAT
STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND WHAT TOP
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND WHAT TOP HEALTH EXPERTS ARE SAYING ABOUT
HEALTH EXPERTS ARE SAYING ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS.
THE CORONAVIRUS. WE’LL TALK TO INFECTIOUS DISEASE
WE’LL TALK TO INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT DR. ANTHONY FAUCI.
EXPERT DR. ANTHONY FAUCI. >>> AS WE GO TO BREAK, THE
>>> AS WE GO TO BREAK, THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC IS DRAWING CLEAR
GLOBAL PANDEMIC IS DRAWING CLEAR CONTRASTS IN HOW WORLD POWERS
CONTRASTS IN HOW WORLD POWERS ARE HANDLING THE CRISIS.
ARE HANDLING THE CRISIS. WHILE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
WHILE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT STRUGGLES TO GET ITS TESTING

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