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Ginsburg Working From Hospital Admitted With Gallbladder Condition

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The Supreme Court heard oral arguments via teleconference Wednesday morning. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, admitted to the hospital Tuesday night with a gallbladder condition, participated in those arguments. Pete Williams reports. Aired on 5/6/2020.


In the UK, schools remain closed to all but the children of key workers with opinion divided over when they should reopen.
For now, parents are having to juggle working from home with teaching their children. And school teachers are tackling the challenges of online education.
Psychiatrist Dr. Adriana Wilson says isolation, working with new technology and looking after children are among the challenges many Canadians who are now working from home are facing. 



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British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is thanking health-care workers after being released from hospital.

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Pyjamas, a laptop and a comfortable couch at home. That's today's work environment for millions of people around the world.
It was a far-fetched dream until the pandemic made it a reality. Companies have been forced to embrace remote working to limit the spread of covid-19.
But that's if the job doesn't require you to be there in person. For those who can - working from home could become permanent.
Twitter is going to give that option to workers who wish to do so.
Other firms are working out how to reopen offices while maintaining social distancing.
The way we work is being revisualised - even into the future.
And post-pandemic offices might look radically different than those of today.
So, will employees ever return to the pre-pandemic office environment, or has a new era dawned?
And what would it take to adopt remote working for the long term?

Presenter: Sami Zeidan

Guests
Marc Einstein, IT strategy adviser
Hilary Jacobs, Psychotherapist and author of "It's Not Always Depression"
Ali Fenwick, behavioural psychologist

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WE APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW YOU’RE A BUSY, BUSY
I KNOW YOU’RE A BUSY, BUSY PERSON.
PERSON. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU BET.
>> YOU BET. >>> AS WE MENTIONED, 87-YEAR-OLD
>>> AS WE MENTIONED, 87-YEAR-OLD SUPREME COURT JUSTICE RUTH BADER
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE RUTH BADER GINSBURG PARTICIPATED IN THAT
GINSBURG PARTICIPATED IN THAT ORAL ARGUMENT TODAY FROM JOHNS
ORAL ARGUMENT TODAY FROM JOHNS HOPKINS.
HOPKINS. PETE WILLIAMS, YOU HAVE BEEN
PETE WILLIAMS, YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTING ON THIS OVERNIGHT.
REPORTING ON THIS OVERNIGHT. SHE WAS TREATED IT, AS YOU HAVE
SHE WAS TREATED IT, AS YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTING, FROM AN
BEEN REPORTING, FROM AN INFECTION CALLED BY A GALLSTONE.
INFECTION CALLED BY A GALLSTONE. BENIGN, NO SURGERY INVOLVED, NO
BENIGN, NO SURGERY INVOLVED, NO SIGN OF THE RECURRENCE OF THE
SIGN OF THE RECURRENCE OF THE CANCER FOR WHICH SHE’S BEEN
CANCER FOR WHICH SHE’S BEEN TREATED AS RECENTLY AS LAST
TREATED AS RECENTLY AS LAST SUMMER.
SUMMER. PETE, WHAT DO WE KNOW?
PETE, WHAT DO WE KNOW? THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT ARGUMENT
THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT ARGUMENT ABOUT CONTRACEPTION AND ATTEMPT
ABOUT CONTRACEPTION AND ATTEMPT TO GIVE CORPORATIONS A WAY TO
TO GIVE CORPORATIONS A WAY TO OPT OUT OF PROVIDING
OPT OUT OF PROVIDING CONTRACEPTION IN THEIR HEALTH
CONTRACEPTION IN THEIR HEALTH CARE PLANS.
CARE PLANS. >> SHE MAY HEAR THE SPEAKER’S
>> SHE MAY HEAR THE SPEAKER’S GOOD WISHES LATER TODAY, ANDREA,
GOOD WISHES LATER TODAY, ANDREA, BUT SHE’S STILL ON THE PHONE
BUT SHE’S STILL ON THE PHONE BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT IS
BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT IS RIGHT NOW HEARING ITS SECOND
RIGHT NOW HEARING ITS SECOND ORAL ARGUMENT OF THE DAY.
ORAL ARGUMENT OF THE DAY. EVER SINCE THEY WENT TO THE
EVER SINCE THEY WENT TO THE TELEPHONE CONFERENCE CALLS,
TELEPHONE CONFERENCE CALLS, THINGS LAST A LOT LONGER.
THINGS LAST A LOT LONGER. BUT SHE WAS AN ACTIVE QUESTIONER
BUT SHE WAS AN ACTIVE QUESTIONER IN THE FIRST CASE UP THIS
IN THE FIRST CASE UP THIS MORNING, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT
MORNING, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR HER.
ISSUE FOR HER. THIS INVOLVES A CHALLENGE TO
THIS INVOLVES A CHALLENGE TO TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RULES THAT
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RULES THAT CURRENTLY ARE ON HOLD BECAUSE OF
CURRENTLY ARE ON HOLD BECAUSE OF COURT RULINGS THAT WOULD EXPAND
COURT RULINGS THAT WOULD EXPAND THE NUMBER AND THE TYPE OF
THE NUMBER AND THE TYPE OF EMPLOYERS WHO COULD OPT OUT OF
EMPLOYERS WHO COULD OPT OUT OF PROVIDING CONTRACEPTIVE COVERAGE
PROVIDING CONTRACEPTIVE COVERAGE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT AFTER
YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT AFTER OBAMACARE WAS PASSED, CHURCHES,
OBAMACARE WAS PASSED, CHURCHES, MOSQUES, HOUSES OF WORSHIP WERE
MOSQUES, HOUSES OF WORSHIP WERE ALLOWED TO OPT OUT.
ALLOWED TO OPT OUT. BUT NOW THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
BUT NOW THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT SHOULD BE BROADER
SAID THAT SHOULD BE BROADER FOR-PROF COMPANIES, SCHOOLS,
FOR-PROF COMPANIES, SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES, NOT JUST RELIGIOUS
UNIVERSITIES, NOT JUST RELIGIOUS BUT MORAL OBJECTION.
BUT MORAL OBJECTION. TODAY IT LOOKED LIKE AT LEAST
TODAY IT LOOKED LIKE AT LEAST FOUR JUSTICES, JUSTICE GINSBURG
FOUR JUSTICES, JUSTICE GINSBURG AMONG THEM, BELIEVE THAT WAS WAY
AMONG THEM, BELIEVE THAT WAS WAY TOO BROAD, WELL BEYOND WHAT
TOO BROAD, WELL BEYOND WHAT CONGRESS SAID.
CONGRESS SAID. JUSTICE GINSBURG SAID IT WOULD
JUSTICE GINSBURG SAID IT WOULD TOSS TO THE WINDS WHAT CONGRESS
TOSS TO THE WINDS WHAT CONGRESS AUTHORIZED AND REQUIRED IN
AUTHORIZED AND REQUIRED IN OBAMACARE, THAT WOMEN HAVE
OBAMACARE, THAT WOMEN HAVE SEAMLESS COVERAGE AND WOULD
SEAMLESS COVERAGE AND WOULD FORCE THEM TO GO ELSEWHERE TO
FORCE THEM TO GO ELSEWHERE TO TRY TO FIND THE COVERAGE AND
TRY TO FIND THE COVERAGE AND CONGRESS WANTED IT TO BE AT NO
CONGRESS WANTED IT TO BE AT NO COST.
COST. SO SHE I THINK WAS CLEARLY
SO SHE I THINK WAS CLEARLY JOINED BY THE OTHER LIBERALS.
JOINED BY THE OTHER LIBERALS. AT LEAST FOUR OF THE
AT LEAST FOUR OF THE CONSERVATIVES THINK THE RULES
CONSERVATIVES THINK THE RULES ARE OKAY.
ARE OKAY. BUT THE FEDERAL AGENCY THAT
BUT THE FEDERAL AGENCY THAT OPPOSED THEM HAS VERY BROAD
OPPOSED THEM HAS VERY BROAD AUTHORITY.
AUTHORITY. JOHN ROBERTS PROBABLY HAS THE
JOHN ROBERTS PROBABLY HAS THE DECIDING VOTE HERE AND HE DIDN’T
DECIDING VOTE HERE AND HE DIDN’T CLEARLY TIP HIS HAND BUT HE DID
CLEARLY TIP HIS HAND BUT HE DID SHOW SOME SCEPTICISM WHETHER THE
SHOW SOME SCEPTICISM WHETHER THE RULES WENT TOO FAR.
RULES WENT TOO FAR. SO IT’S POSSIBLE THAT THE COURT
SO IT’S POSSIBLE THAT THE COURT MAY ROLL BACK WHAT THE TRUMP
MAY ROLL BACK WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS TRY DODD HERE
ADMINISTRATION HAS TRY DODD HERE HERE.
HERE. BUT SHE WAS AN ACTIVE QUESTION,
BUT SHE WAS AN ACTIVE QUESTION, ANDREA.
ANDREA. THINK ABOUT IT, SHE WAS ON THE
THINK ABOUT IT, SHE WAS ON THE FIRST CONFERENCE CALL MONDAY
FIRST CONFERENCE CALL MONDAY WHEN THE COURT STARTED HEARING
WHEN THE COURT STARTED HEARING ORAL ARGUMENT.
ORAL ARGUMENT. THEN SHE FINDS OUT LATER THAT
THEN SHE FINDS OUT LATER THAT DAY SHE HAS A GALLBLADDER BUT
DAY SHE HAS A GALLBLADDER BUT TAKES A PART AGAIN ON THE SECOND
TAKES A PART AGAIN ON THE SECOND TELECONFERENCE TUESDAY AND THEN
TELECONFERENCE TUESDAY AND THEN GOES TO JOHNS HOPKINS, HAS THE
GOES TO JOHNS HOPKINS, HAS THE PROCEDURE TO GET THE BLOCKAGE
PROCEDURE TO GET THE BLOCKAGE OUT, TAKES ANTIBIOTICS, IN THE
OUT, TAKES ANTIBIOTICS, IN THE HOSPITAL OVERNIGHT AND BACK ON
HOSPITAL OVERNIGHT AND BACK ON THE PHONE THIS MORNING.
THE PHONE THIS MORNING. AND THE COURT SAID SHE WILL
AND THE COURT SAID SHE WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE HOSPITAL FOR
PROBABLY BE IN THE HOSPITAL FOR ANOTHER DAY OR SO.
ANOTHER DAY OR SO. >> PETE, I KNOW YOU’VE GOT TO
>> PETE, I KNOW YOU’VE GOT TO GET BACK TO THE ARGUMENT BUT I
GET BACK TO THE ARGUMENT BUT I JUST WANT TO PLAY WHILE YOU’RE
JUST WANT TO PLAY WHILE YOU’RE THERE, A LITTLE BIT JUST TO LET
THERE, A LITTLE BIT JUST TO LET OUR LISTENERS LISTEN, OUR
OUR LISTENERS LISTEN, OUR VIEWERS, RATHER, LISTEN TO HER
VIEWERS, RATHER, LISTEN TO HER QUESTIONING.
QUESTIONING. >> SURE.
>> SURE. >> YOU HAVE JUST TOSSED ENTIRELY
>> YOU HAVE JUST TOSSED ENTIRELY TO THE WIND WHAT CONGRESS
TO THE WIND WHAT CONGRESS THOUGHT WAS ESSENTIAL, AND THAT
THOUGHT WAS ESSENTIAL, AND THAT IS WOMEN BE PROVIDED THESE
IS WOMEN BE PROVIDED THESE SERVICES WITH NO HASSLE, NO COST
SERVICES WITH NO HASSLE, NO COST TO THEM.
TO THEM. >> AND, PETE, IT JUST SHOWS SHE
>> AND, PETE, IT JUST SHOWS SHE WAS QUESTIONING THE SOLICITOR
WAS QUESTIONING THE SOLICITOR GENERAL, IT SHOWS SHE’S STILL
GENERAL, IT SHOWS SHE’S STILL INCREDIBLY INVOLVED.
INCREDIBLY INVOLVED. IT’S SUCH A SHOW OF FORCE ON HER
IT’S SUCH A SHOW OF FORCE ON HER PART.
PART. I KNOW WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT
I KNOW WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

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