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Dr. Anthony Fauci on efforts to slow the spread of coronavirus in US

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Coronavirus task force member Dr. Anthony Fauci, director National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, joins Chris Wallace on 'Fox News Sunday.'

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US President Donald Trump announces the US will be invoking the Defence Production Act to prevent the spread of coronavirus
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo discusses bringing thousandas American's home safely and the administration's effort to slow the spread of coronavirus. #FoxNews #Hannity

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>> Chris: KRISTIN FISHER REPORTING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE,
REPORTING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND JOINING US NOW, DR. ANTHONY
AND JOINING US NOW, DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, THE GOVERNMENT’S TOP
FAUCI, THE GOVERNMENT’S TOP OFFICIAL ON INFECTIOUS DISEASES
OFFICIAL ON INFECTIOUS DISEASES AND WELCOME BACK TO
AND WELCOME BACK TO "FOX NEWS SUNDAY."
"FOX NEWS SUNDAY." I WANTED TO START WITH THOSE
I WANTED TO START WITH THOSE VIDEOS THAT KRISTIN FISHER JUST
VIDEOS THAT KRISTIN FISHER JUST SHOWED OF THOSE THOUSANDS OF
SHOWED OF THOSE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AT AIRPORTS OVERNIGHT
PEOPLE AT AIRPORTS OVERNIGHT RUSHING TO BEAT THE TRAVEL BAN
RUSHING TO BEAT THE TRAVEL BAN WAITING ON LINE FOR HOURS WHEN
WAITING ON LINE FOR HOURS WHEN YOU CAN THEM HERE IN CLOSE
YOU CAN THEM HERE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY ONE ASSUMES COMING
PROXIMITY ONE ASSUMES COMING BACK FROM EUROPE, SOME OF THEM
BACK FROM EUROPE, SOME OF THEM HAVE THE CORONAVIRUS AND AS AN
HAVE THE CORONAVIRUS AND AS AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR, ARE
INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR, ARE YOU TROUBLED SEEING THIS?
YOU TROUBLED SEEING THIS? >> WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT SEE
>> WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT SEE CROWDS LIKE THAT.
CROWDS LIKE THAT. WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS IF YOU’RE AN AMERICAN
IS IF YOU’RE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, YOU CAN GET BACK.
CITIZEN, YOU CAN GET BACK. YOU DON’T NEED TO RUSH BACK, YOU
YOU DON’T NEED TO RUSH BACK, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET BACK BUT
WILL BE ABLE TO GET BACK BUT IT’S UNDERSTANDABLE HOW WHEN
IT’S UNDERSTANDABLE HOW WHEN PEOPLE SEE THE TRAVEL BAN, THEY
PEOPLE SEE THE TRAVEL BAN, THEY IMMEDIATELY WANT TO HUNKER AND
IMMEDIATELY WANT TO HUNKER AND GET HOME, HOPEFULLY WE DON’T
GET HOME, HOPEFULLY WE DON’T HAVE MORE OF THAT BUT I THINK WE
HAVE MORE OF THAT BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY UNFORTUNATELY WILL SEE
PROBABLY UNFORTUNATELY WILL SEE THAT.
THAT. >> Chris: IS NOT A PROBLEM IN
>> Chris: IS NOT A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF THE SPREAD OF THE
TERMS OF THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE?
DISEASE? >> THAT’S THE THING WE’VE BEEN
>> THAT’S THE THING WE’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT WE REALLY
TALKING ABOUT THAT WE REALLY WANT TO IMPLEMENT IS TO HAVE
WANT TO IMPLEMENT IS TO HAVE THAT KIND OF SOCIAL SEPARATION,
THAT KIND OF SOCIAL SEPARATION, THAT IS COUNTER DEMANDING THAT
THAT IS COUNTER DEMANDING THAT AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE UNDERSTAND YOU DON’T HAVE TO RUSH BACK.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO RUSH BACK. >> Chris: TO WHAT DEGREE IS IT
>> Chris: TO WHAT DEGREE IS IT ON THE AIRPORTS TO PREVENT THAT
ON THE AIRPORTS TO PREVENT THAT AND NOT HAVE THOSE BIG CROWDS OF
AND NOT HAVE THOSE BIG CROWDS OF PEOPLE WAITING FOR HOURS?
PEOPLE WAITING FOR HOURS? >> I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE
>> I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE AIRPORTS CAN DO ABOUT THAT TO
AIRPORTS CAN DO ABOUT THAT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TELL THEM
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TELL THEM THAT IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN
THAT IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET
CITIZEN, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET BACK, IT’S NOT GOING TO BE A
BACK, IT’S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
PROBLEM. >> Chris: YOU TESTIFIED BEFORE
>> Chris: YOU TESTIFIED BEFORE CONGRESS THIS WEEK AND YOU MADE
CONGRESS THIS WEEK AND YOU MADE WHAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER
WHAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER SOME PRETTY CHILLING COMMENTS.
SOME PRETTY CHILLING COMMENTS. HERE THEY ARE.
HERE THEY ARE. >> BOTTOM LINE, IT’S GOING TO
>> BOTTOM LINE, IT’S GOING TO GET WORSE.
GET WORSE. THE FLU HAS A MORTALITY OF 0.1%.
THE FLU HAS A MORTALITY OF 0.1%. THIS HAS A MORTALITY OF TEN
THIS HAS A MORTALITY OF TEN TIMES THAT.
TIMES THAT. >> Chris: WHAT IS DIFFERENT
>> Chris: WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS VIRUS?
ABOUT THIS VIRUS? WHAT IS DIFFERENT AND HOW
WHAT IS DIFFERENT AND HOW CONTAGIOUS IT IS AND HOW LETHAL
CONTAGIOUS IT IS AND HOW LETHAL IT IS?
IT IS? >> I WOULD SAY THREE THINGS, ONE
>> I WOULD SAY THREE THINGS, ONE IS IT’S BRAND-NEW SO WE DON’T
IS IT’S BRAND-NEW SO WE DON’T HAVE ANY PRIOR EXPERIENCE ABOUT
HAVE ANY PRIOR EXPERIENCE ABOUT WHAT IT’S GOING TO DO AND WHAT
WHAT IT’S GOING TO DO AND WHAT ITS DYNAMICS ARE GOING TO BE.
ITS DYNAMICS ARE GOING TO BE. NUMBER TWO, IT SPREADS VERY
NUMBER TWO, IT SPREADS VERY EASILY.
EASILY. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. ISN’T LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER
ISN’T LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER OUTBREAKS THAT WE HAD THAT JUST
OUTBREAKS THAT WE HAD THAT JUST DIDN’T ADAPT ITSELF TO SPREAD
DIDN’T ADAPT ITSELF TO SPREAD AMONG HUMANS AND NUMBER THREE,
AMONG HUMANS AND NUMBER THREE, IT’S VERY SERIOUS IN THE SENSE
IT’S VERY SERIOUS IN THE SENSE OF MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY
OF MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY PARTICULARLY AMONG AND VERY
PARTICULARLY AMONG AND VERY HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARDS
HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARDS INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE MORE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE.
SUSCEPTIBLE. THE ELDERLY AND THOSE WITH
THE ELDERLY AND THOSE WITH UNDERLYING CONDITIONS.
UNDERLYING CONDITIONS. >> Chris: IN TERMS OF
>> Chris: IN TERMS OF CONTAGIOUSNESS AND LETHALITY,
CONTAGIOUSNESS AND LETHALITY, WORSE THAN THE FLU?
WORSE THAN THE FLU? >> IT JUST IS AND WE HAVE TO
>> IT JUST IS AND WE HAVE TO FACE THAT FACT, WE HAVE TO BE
FACE THAT FACT, WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC AND I SAID THAT AT THE
REALISTIC AND I SAID THAT AT THE HEARING AND THAT THINGS ARE
HEARING AND THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE THEY
GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE THEY GET BETTER, BUT THE KINDS OF
GET BETTER, BUT THE KINDS OF THINGS WE ARE DOING NOW WILL
THINGS WE ARE DOING NOW WILL HOPEFULLY MITIGATE THAT.
HOPEFULLY MITIGATE THAT. I SHOWED THAT CURVE.
I SHOWED THAT CURVE. >> Chris: WE ARE GOING TO TALK
>> Chris: WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT THAT. >> THAT’S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE
>> THAT’S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE THINK THAT RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING
THINK THAT RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE OKAY IF YOU DON’T
IS GOING TO BE OKAY IF YOU DON’T DO ANYTHING, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
DO ANYTHING, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.
INCORRECT. WE’VE GOT TO REALLY ALWAYS BE
WE’VE GOT TO REALLY ALWAYS BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
AHEAD OF THE CURVE. I SAY NOW IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE
I SAY NOW IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND, I’D LIKE TO BE
CAN UNDERSTAND, I’D LIKE TO BE THE FACT THAT WE ARE CRITICIZED
THE FACT THAT WE ARE CRITICIZED FOR BEING OVERREACTIVE.
FOR BEING OVERREACTIVE. WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A
WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A VIRUS OUTBREAK, YOU’RE ALWAYS
VIRUS OUTBREAK, YOU’RE ALWAYS BEHIND WHERE YOU THINK YOU ARE.
BEHIND WHERE YOU THINK YOU ARE. SO THEREFORE, YOU’VE GOT TO JUMP
SO THEREFORE, YOU’VE GOT TO JUMP AHEAD AND STAY AHEAD OF THE
AHEAD AND STAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
CURVE. >> Chris: I WANT TO ASK YOU
>> Chris: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. ON FRIDAY, BOTH YOU AND THE
ON FRIDAY, BOTH YOU AND THE PRESIDENT AT ONE POINT MENTIONED
PRESIDENT AT ONE POINT MENTIONED EIGHT WEEKS.
EIGHT WEEKS. YOU WEREN’T SAYING IT’S ALL
YOU WEREN’T SAYING IT’S ALL GOING TO BE OVER IN EIGHT WEEKS,
GOING TO BE OVER IN EIGHT WEEKS, BUT ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IF
BUT ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IF WE DO EVERYTHING RIGHT, THAT WE
WE DO EVERYTHING RIGHT, THAT WE COULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
COULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CURVE IN EIGHT WEEKS?
THE CURVE IN EIGHT WEEKS? >> FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO SAY
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO SAY THAT PEOPLE DON’T MISUNDERSTAND,
THAT PEOPLE DON’T MISUNDERSTAND, WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT THE
WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT THE DURATION IS GOING TO BE.
DURATION IS GOING TO BE. NUMBER TWO, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT
NUMBER TWO, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN CHINA WHERE THEY HAD
HAPPENED IN CHINA WHERE THEY HAD THAT PEAK AND THEN ONLY 11 NEW
THAT PEAK AND THEN ONLY 11 NEW CASES IN CHINA, THEY DOMINATED
CASES IN CHINA, THEY DOMINATED THE NEW CASES JUST A FEW MONTHS
THE NEW CASES JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO SO IT STARTED OFF IN CHINA,
AGO SO IT STARTED OFF IN CHINA, TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO, THEY
TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO, THEY STARTED COMING DOWN WITHIN A TWO
STARTED COMING DOWN WITHIN A TWO MONTH PERIOD.
MONTH PERIOD. SO IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
SO IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT REFLECTING WHAT WENT ON THERE,
REFLECTING WHAT WENT ON THERE, IT’S GOING TO BE ABOUT THAT TIME
IT’S GOING TO BE ABOUT THAT TIME THAT WE HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT
THAT WE HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS ARE GOING TO
COUPLE OF MONTHS ARE GOING TO SEE THE DIRECTION IT’S GOING TO
SEE THE DIRECTION IT’S GOING TO GO.
GO. HOPEFULLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IN
HOPEFULLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE VERY AGGRESSIVE WAY OF
THE VERY AGGRESSIVE WAY OF CONTAINMENT AND MITIGATION WILL
CONTAINMENT AND MITIGATION WILL BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY FLATTEN IT
BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY FLATTEN IT IN THE SENSE OF NOT AS MANY
IN THE SENSE OF NOT AS MANY CASES BUT ALSO DIMINISH THE
CASES BUT ALSO DIMINISH THE DURATION.
DURATION. >> Chris: PRESIDENT TRUMP
>> Chris: PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCED A PUBLIC PRIVATE
ANNOUNCED A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ON FRIDAY AND MADE
PARTNERSHIP ON FRIDAY AND MADE IT SOUND LIKE SERIOUS TESTING
IT SOUND LIKE SERIOUS TESTING AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WE WILL
AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WE WILL BE SEEING SOON.
BE SEEING SOON. FIRST, THERE WAS THIS.
FIRST, THERE WAS THIS. >> I WANT TO THINK OF GOOGLE,
>> I WANT TO THINK OF GOOGLE, GOOGLE IS HELPING TO DEVELOP A
GOOGLE IS HELPING TO DEVELOP A WEB SITE THAT IS GOING TO BE
WEB SITE THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY QUICKLY DONE UNLIKE
VERY QUICKLY DONE UNLIKE WEB SITES OF THE PAST.
WEB SITES OF THE PAST. >> Chris: GOOGLE SISTER
>> Chris: GOOGLE SISTER COMPANY VERILY PUT OUT A
COMPANY VERILY PUT OUT A STATEMENT LATER THAT SAID THIS
STATEMENT LATER THAT SAID THIS TEST, WHICH ACCORDING TO OTHER
TEST, WHICH ACCORDING TO OTHER OFFICIALS FIRST OF ALL WILL LET
OFFICIALS FIRST OF ALL WILL LET YOU CHECK WHETHER YOUR SYMPTOMS
YOU CHECK WHETHER YOUR SYMPTOMS INDICATE YOU HAVE IT AND IF YOU
INDICATE YOU HAVE IT AND IF YOU DO SEEM TO HAVE IT, WILL TELL
DO SEEM TO HAVE IT, WILL TELL YOU WHERE YOU CAN GET TESTING.
YOU WHERE YOU CAN GET TESTING. IN FACT, IS JUST STARTING AND IS
IN FACT, IS JUST STARTING AND IS JUST AN PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE
JUST AN PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE BAY AREA AND IT’S GOING TO TAKE
BAY AREA AND IT’S GOING TO TAKE OVER TIME THEY SAID FOR IT TO BE
OVER TIME THEY SAID FOR IT TO BE APPLIED NATIONALLY AND WHILE THE
APPLIED NATIONALLY AND WHILE THE PRESIDENT MADE IT SOUND LIKE
PRESIDENT MADE IT SOUND LIKE MASS TESTING IS GOING TO START
MASS TESTING IS GOING TO START VERY SOON, THERE WERE A LOT OF
VERY SOON, THERE WERE A LOT OF EXPERTS WHO SAY THAT WHETHER IT
EXPERTS WHO SAY THAT WHETHER IT IS STAFFING, PUBLIC HEALTH
IS STAFFING, PUBLIC HEALTH STAFFING OR THE PRODUCTS OR THE
STAFFING OR THE PRODUCTS OR THE CHEMICALS NEEDED FOR MASS
CHEMICALS NEEDED FOR MASS TESTING THAT WE ARE WAY BEHIND
TESTING THAT WE ARE WAY BEHIND THE CURVE ON THAT SO I GUESS MY
THE CURVE ON THAT SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW SOON CAN PEOPLE
QUESTION IS HOW SOON CAN PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY EXPECT MASS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY EXPECT MASS DRIVE THROUGH TESTING?
DRIVE THROUGH TESTING? >> THEY WERE TWO ISSUES HERE.
>> THEY WERE TWO ISSUES HERE. A WEB SITE AND WHEN IT’S GOING
A WEB SITE AND WHEN IT’S GOING TO BE FULLY OPEN VERSUS THE
TO BE FULLY OPEN VERSUS THE AVAILABILITY OF TESTING.
AVAILABILITY OF TESTING. THEY REALLY ARE SOMEWHAT
THEY REALLY ARE SOMEWHAT SEPARATE.
SEPARATE. SO PUT ASIDE THE WEB SITE AND
SO PUT ASIDE THE WEB SITE AND HOW IT’S GOING TO BE FULLY
HOW IT’S GOING TO BE FULLY OPERATIONAL, THE CEOs OF THE
OPERATIONAL, THE CEOs OF THE COMPANY’S THAT WE HAD AT THE
COMPANY’S THAT WE HAD AT THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THE PRESIDENT
WHITE HOUSE THAT THE PRESIDENT MET WITH, IT’S VERY CLEAR THAT
MET WITH, IT’S VERY CLEAR THAT WHEN I SPECIFICALLY ASK THEM
WHEN I SPECIFICALLY ASK THEM WHEN CAN WE GET STARTED TO START
WHEN CAN WE GET STARTED TO START DOING THIS WHERE YOU CAN REALLY
DOING THIS WHERE YOU CAN REALLY HAVE AVAILABILITY IN A MUCH
HAVE AVAILABILITY IN A MUCH EASIER WAY IMPLEMENTING, NOT
EASIER WAY IMPLEMENTING, NOT JUST SAYING THAT IT’S OUT THERE,
JUST SAYING THAT IT’S OUT THERE, THEY ARE TELLING US THAT WE’LL
THEY ARE TELLING US THAT WE’LL BE STARTING UP WITHIN THE NEXT
BE STARTING UP WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO THAT’S GOING TO GO
WEEK OR SO THAT’S GOING TO GO UP.
UP. IN THE REALITY, THEY WERE GOING
IN THE REALITY, THEY WERE GOING TO BE PEOPLE A WEEK FROM NOW WHO
TO BE PEOPLE A WEEK FROM NOW WHO ARE GOING TO SAY I TRIED TO GET
ARE GOING TO SAY I TRIED TO GET A TEST AND I COULDN’T GET IT BUT
A TEST AND I COULDN’T GET IT BUT THE TOTALITY OF THE PICTURE IS
THE TOTALITY OF THE PICTURE IS GOING TO BE INFINITELY BETTER
GOING TO BE INFINITELY BETTER THAN IT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO.
THAN IT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO. >> Chris: I WANT TO TALK TO
>> Chris: I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO
YOU ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTINUING
BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTINUING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY OTHER
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY OTHER COUNTRIES ARE TESTING THOUSANDS
COUNTRIES ARE TESTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A DAY AND SO FAR, THE
OF PEOPLE A DAY AND SO FAR, THE CDC SAYS THAT EIGHT AND STATE
CDC SAYS THAT EIGHT AND STATE LABS TOTAL, THE WHOLE CRISIS
LABS TOTAL, THE WHOLE CRISIS HAVE TESTED 13,000 PEOPLE.
HAVE TESTED 13,000 PEOPLE. HERE’S HOW YOU WHEN THE
HERE’S HOW YOU WHEN THE PRESIDENT ANSWERED QUESTIONS
PRESIDENT ANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TESTING LAG THIS WEEK.
ABOUT THE TESTING LAG THIS WEEK. >> THE IDEA OF ANYBODY GETTING
>> THE IDEA OF ANYBODY GETTING IT EASILY THE WAY PEOPLE IN
IT EASILY THE WAY PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES ARE DOING IT, WE
OTHER COUNTRIES ARE DOING IT, WE ARE NOT SET UP FOR THAT.
ARE NOT SET UP FOR THAT. DO I THINK WE SHOULD BE?
DO I THINK WE SHOULD BE? YES, BUT WE ARE NOT.
YES, BUT WE ARE NOT. >> I DON’T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
>> I DON’T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AT ALL BECAUSE WE WERE GIVEN A
AT ALL BECAUSE WE WERE GIVEN A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE WERE
SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE WERE GIVEN RULES, REGULATIONS, AND
GIVEN RULES, REGULATIONS, AND SPECIFICATIONS FROM A DIFFERENT
SPECIFICATIONS FROM A DIFFERENT TIME.
TIME. >> Chris: THE PRESIDENT SAID
>> Chris: THE PRESIDENT SAID THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SET UP
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SET UP RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT MADE
RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO TESTING.
IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO TESTING. HE WERE IN THE SAME POSITION
HE WERE IN THE SAME POSITION UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. IS THAT TRUE?
IS THAT TRUE? IS THAT WHAT STOPPED AT?
IS THAT WHAT STOPPED AT? >> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I’M
>> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I’M NOT SURE WHAT REGULATIONS AND
NOT SURE WHAT REGULATIONS AND WHAT THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT. I REALLY MEAN THAT.
I REALLY MEAN THAT. I’M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT
I’M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THESE THINGS WERE IN
IS THAT THESE THINGS WERE IN PLACE THAT WERE ABLE TO OR
PLACE THAT WERE ABLE TO OR INHIBITING BUT ONE THING THAT I
INHIBITING BUT ONE THING THAT I DO KNOW NOW IS THAT THE ABILITY
DO KNOW NOW IS THAT THE ABILITY TO GET A TEST HAD SOME
TO GET A TEST HAD SOME REGULATORY AND OTHER
REGULATORY AND OTHER RESTRICTIONS ON IT BUT THE FDA
RESTRICTIONS ON IT BUT THE FDA NOW HAS JUST GOTTEN RID OF.
NOW HAS JUST GOTTEN RID OF. >> Chris: THEY COULD HAVE DONE
>> Chris: THEY COULD HAVE DONE THAT DAY ONE.
THAT DAY ONE. >> THEY COULD HAVE BUT THAT
>> THEY COULD HAVE BUT THAT PROBLEM IS THEY DIDN’T SO
PROBLEM IS THEY DIDN’T SO INSTEAD OF LOOKING BACK, LOOKING
INSTEAD OF LOOKING BACK, LOOKING AT WHERE IT GOING.
AT WHERE IT GOING. >> Chris: YOU TALK ABOUT
>> Chris: YOU TALK ABOUT SLOWING THE VIRUS DOWN, I’VE
SLOWING THE VIRUS DOWN, I’VE GOTTEN VERY USED TO THIS NOW,
GOTTEN VERY USED TO THIS NOW, YOU COULD EITHER HAVE A BUMP
YOU COULD EITHER HAVE A BUMP LIKE THIS OF CASES OR YOU
LIKE THIS OF CASES OR YOU COULDN’T MAKE IT THE SAME TOTAL
COULDN’T MAKE IT THE SAME TOTAL CASES BUT IT’S A MUCH MORE
CASES BUT IT’S A MUCH MORE GRADUAL AND SLOWER AND LONGER
GRADUAL AND SLOWER AND LONGER CURVE.
CURVE. I WANT TO PUT UP SOME NUMBERS.
I WANT TO PUT UP SOME NUMBERS. WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY ABOUT
WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY ABOUT 950,000 HOSPITAL BEDS AND ABOUT
950,000 HOSPITAL BEDS AND ABOUT 45,000 BEDS IN INTENSIVE CARE
45,000 BEDS IN INTENSIVE CARE UNITS.
UNITS. HOW WORRIED ARE YOU THAT THIS
HOW WORRIED ARE YOU THAT THIS VIRUS IS GOING TO OVERWHELM
VIRUS IS GOING TO OVERWHELM HOSPITALS, NOT JUST BEDS, BUT
HOSPITALS, NOT JUST BEDS, BUT VENTILATORS.
VENTILATORS. WE ONLY HAVE 160,000 VENTILATORS
WE ONLY HAVE 160,000 VENTILATORS AND COULD WE BE IN A SITUATION
AND COULD WE BE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO RATION WHO
WHERE YOU HAVE TO RATION WHO GETS THE BED, WHO GETS THE
GETS THE BED, WHO GETS THE VENTILATOR?
VENTILATOR? >> LET ME PUT IT IN A WAY SO
>> LET ME PUT IT IN A WAY SO THAT IT DOESN’T GET TAKEN OUT OF
THAT IT DOESN’T GET TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.
CONTEXT. WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT MODELING
WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT MODELING WHERE OUTBREAKS ARE GOING, IT’S
WHERE OUTBREAKS ARE GOING, IT’S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE ASSUMPTIONS
ONLY AS GOOD AS THE ASSUMPTIONS YOU PUT INTO THE MODEL AND WHAT
YOU PUT INTO THE MODEL AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY HAVE A WORSE CASE
THEY DO, THEY HAVE A WORSE CASE SCENARIO, A BEST-CASE SCENARIO,
SCENARIO, A BEST-CASE SCENARIO, AND LIKELY WHERE IT’S GOING TO
AND LIKELY WHERE IT’S GOING TO BE.
BE. WE HAVE A WORSE CASE SCENARIO,
WE HAVE A WORSE CASE SCENARIO, WE’VE GOT TO ADMIT IT.
WE’VE GOT TO ADMIT IT. WE COULD BE OVERWHELMED.
WE COULD BE OVERWHELMED. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A WORSE
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A WORSE CASE SCENARIO?
CASE SCENARIO? I DON’T THINK SO, I HOPE NOT.
I DON’T THINK SO, I HOPE NOT. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO NOT HAVE
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO NOT HAVE THAT WORST-CASE SCENARIO?
THAT WORST-CASE SCENARIO? THAT’S WHEN YOU GET INTO THE
THAT’S WHEN YOU GET INTO THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING.
THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING. WE ARE PREVENTING INFECTIONS
WE ARE PREVENTING INFECTIONS FROM GOING IN WITH SOME RATHER
FROM GOING IN WITH SOME RATHER STRINGENT TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
STRINGENT TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS AND WE ARE DOING CONTAINED
AND WE ARE DOING CONTAINED MITIGATION FROM WITHIN SO AT A
MITIGATION FROM WITHIN SO AT A WORST-CASE SCENARIO, ANYWHERE IN
WORST-CASE SCENARIO, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY
THE WORLD NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE, YOU WILL BE PREPARED.
YOU ARE, YOU WILL BE PREPARED. OUR JOB IS TO NOT LET THAT
OUR JOB IS TO NOT LET THAT WORST-CASE SCENARIO HAPPEN.
WORST-CASE SCENARIO HAPPEN. >> Chris: FINAL QUESTION,
>> Chris: FINAL QUESTION, THREE COUNTRIES NOW IN EUROPE,
THREE COUNTRIES NOW IN EUROPE, ITALY, SPAIN, AND FRANCE ARE
ITALY, SPAIN, AND FRANCE ARE BASICALLY IN TOTAL LOCKDOWN.
BASICALLY IN TOTAL LOCKDOWN. PEOPLE NOT ALLOWED OUT IN ITALY.
PEOPLE NOT ALLOWED OUT IN ITALY. I THINK ONLY PHARMACIES AND
I THINK ONLY PHARMACIES AND GROCERY STORES ARE OPEN.
GROCERY STORES ARE OPEN. YOU SEE PEOPLE ON THE BALCONIES
YOU SEE PEOPLE ON THE BALCONIES SINGING SONGS AND BANGING POTS,
SINGING SONGS AND BANGING POTS, COULD THAT HAPPEN HERE EITHER
COULD THAT HAPPEN HERE EITHER NATIONALLY OR IN SOME REGIONS
NATIONALLY OR IN SOME REGIONS AND WHAT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY
AND WHAT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE
THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE TRAVEL BAN’S INSIDE THE COUNTRY?
TRAVEL BAN’S INSIDE THE COUNTRY? >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THERE
>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THERE SO LET ME TAKE ONE AT A TIME.
SO LET ME TAKE ONE AT A TIME. THE IDEA OF WHAT’S GOING IN
THE IDEA OF WHAT’S GOING IN EUROPE IS THEY HAVE -- THEY GOT
EUROPE IS THEY HAVE -- THEY GOT INTO THAT ESCALATION PHASE SO
INTO THAT ESCALATION PHASE SO WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW IS
WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW IS PLAYING CATCH UP.
PLAYING CATCH UP. WE FEEL THAT WITH RATHER
WE FEEL THAT WITH RATHER STRINGENT MITIGATION AND
STRINGENT MITIGATION AND CONTAINMENT WITHOUT NECESSARILY
CONTAINMENT WITHOUT NECESSARILY COMPLETE LOCKDOWN, WE’D BE ABLE
COMPLETE LOCKDOWN, WE’D BE ABLE TO PREVENT OURSELVES FROM
TO PREVENT OURSELVES FROM GETTING TO WHERE UNFORTUNATELY
GETTING TO WHERE UNFORTUNATELY ITALY IS NOW.
ITALY IS NOW. WITH REGARD TO DOMESTIC TRAVEL
WITH REGARD TO DOMESTIC TRAVEL BANDS, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT
BANDS, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT AND CONSIDER EVERYTHING BUT I
AND CONSIDER EVERYTHING BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS NOT BEING
CAN TELL YOU THAT IS NOT BEING SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED, DOING
SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED, DOING TRAVEL BANDS.
TRAVEL BANDS. WOULD IT SOMETIME?
WOULD IT SOMETIME? WE ALWAYS LEAVE AN OPEN MIND.
WE ALWAYS LEAVE AN OPEN MIND. >> Chris: THANK YOU, THANKS
>> Chris: THANK YOU, THANKS FOR COMING IN, AN AWFUL LOT OF
FOR COMING IN, AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE ARE RELYING ON WHAT YOU
PEOPLE ARE RELYING ON WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND OF COURSE WE

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