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MSNBC 31 Mar 2020

COVID-19 Stricken Navy Carrier Faces Tough Choices, Limited Options

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Ray Mabus, former governor of Mississippi and former Secretary of the Navy, talks with Rachel Maddow about the need to get sailors sick with COVID-19 off the Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier and the options open to the U.S. military to treat the sailors and the ship when only the limited resources of Guam are available.

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The U.S. does not have a universal healthcare system.
Instead it relies on a combination of private and public health insurance programs.
The response to the COVID-19 pandemic has raised questions about the nation's health care system.
CGTN's Roee Ruttenberg explains.
President Trump said Monday that the USNS Comfort docked in New York will now be open to coronavirus patients, after the ship was initially meant to take only non-COVID-19 patients to free up beds in New York hospitals. The floating hospital is now open to New Jersey patients too. Watch his remarks here.
Would-be travellers are being denied refunds from major Canadian airlines for trips cancelled by the carriers because of COVID-19. That wasn't the case until recently. Now, anyone without travel insurance will only get a travel credit, good for 24 months.
US President Trump has told Americans to prepare for "a very painful two weeks". He was speaking as the country's death toll from the coronavirus surpassed 4,000 - greater than China's official tally. President Trump said as many as 240-thousand people in the US could die, even if current social distancing measures were maintained.
Afghanistan has recorded nearly 200 coronavirus cases and four deaths. Authorities there are taking steps to halt the spread of infection. But after years of war, the health system is weak and would be overwhelmed if the number of cases grows as it has in other countries. The country's problems are exacerbated by the return of thousands of people from Iran - one of the countries worst by Covid-19.
Some more of the latest developments in this pandemic:
- China has reported for the first time on numbers of asymptomatic cases. It says 13-hundred people have tested positive, despite showing no symptoms.
- The captain of a US aircraft carrier is calling for urgent help to quarantine his crew of 4,000. The Theodore Roosevelt is docked in Guam in the Pacific, with the disease spreading rapidly onboard.
- A 12-year-old girl has died in Belgium - she's thought to be Europe's youngest victim so far.
- Tuesday saw France, the UK and Spain record their highest daily death tolls so far.

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ILLNESS AND DEATH. THE AUTHOR OF THAT ON SAID TODAY
THE AUTHOR OF THAT ON SAID TODAY KNOWS OF WHAT HE SPEAKS.
KNOWS OF WHAT HE SPEAKS. HE SERVED AS SECRETARY OF THE
HE SERVED AS SECRETARY OF THE NAVY UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA.
NAVY UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA. GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING
GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
HERE TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE TIME.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME. >> THANK YOU, RACHEL.
>> THANK YOU, RACHEL. GLAD TO BE HERE.
GLAD TO BE HERE. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A NAVY
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU A NAVY QUESTION FIRST, IF YOU DON’T
QUESTION FIRST, IF YOU DON’T MIND.
MIND. THE COUNTRY IS TRANSMIXED BY THE
THE COUNTRY IS TRANSMIXED BY THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER, THE "USS
AIRCRAFT CARRIER, THE "USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT" WITH 100
THEODORE ROOSEVELT" WITH 100 SAILORS THAT HAVE TESTED
SAILORS THAT HAVE TESTED POSITIVE, THE CAPTAIN SAYING HE
POSITIVE, THE CAPTAIN SAYING HE CAN’T STOP THE SPREAD OF THIS
CAN’T STOP THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS AMONG HIS CREW.
VIRUS AMONG HIS CREW. HE WANTS THE WHOLE CREW TAKEN
HE WANTS THE WHOLE CREW TAKEN OFF AND QUARANTINED.
OFF AND QUARANTINED. AS A FORMER NAVY SECRETARY, HOW
AS A FORMER NAVY SECRETARY, HOW DO YOU READ THIS SITUATION?
DO YOU READ THIS SITUATION? >> WELL, NUMBER ONE, IT’S REALLY
>> WELL, NUMBER ONE, IT’S REALLY EXTRAORDINARY, THAT A CAPTAIN
EXTRAORDINARY, THAT A CAPTAIN REACHES OUT LIKE THIS, AND JUST
REACHES OUT LIKE THIS, AND JUST PLEADS TO GET HIS SAILORS OFF
PLEADS TO GET HIS SAILORS OFF AND SAYS WE’RE NOT IN A WAR,
AND SAYS WE’RE NOT IN A WAR, PEOPLE DON’T HAVE TO DIE.
PEOPLE DON’T HAVE TO DIE. THAT’S ASTOUNDING.
THAT’S ASTOUNDING. BUT YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO
BUT YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YOU CAN’T SOCIALLY DISTANCE ON A
YOU CAN’T SOCIALLY DISTANCE ON A SHIP, ON ANY NAVY SHIP,
SHIP, ON ANY NAVY SHIP, PARTICULARLY ON SOMETHING THIS
PARTICULARLY ON SOMETHING THIS BIG WITH THIS MANY PEOPLE ON IT.
BIG WITH THIS MANY PEOPLE ON IT. AND THE NAVY IS GOING TO --
AND THE NAVY IS GOING TO -- THEY’RE STUCK IN A TOUGH PLACE.
THEY’RE STUCK IN A TOUGH PLACE. YOU’RE RIGHT ABOUT GUAM.
YOU’RE RIGHT ABOUT GUAM. THEY DON’T HAVE MANY FACILITIES.
THEY DON’T HAVE MANY FACILITIES. BUT IF YOU DON’T SLOW THE
BUT IF YOU DON’T SLOW THE SPREAD, IF YOU DON’T GET PEOPLE
SPREAD, IF YOU DON’T GET PEOPLE OFF, IF YOU DON’T THOROUGHLY
OFF, IF YOU DON’T THOROUGHLY CLEAN THE SHIP, AND IF THE NAVY
CLEAN THE SHIP, AND IF THE NAVY DOESN’T START PROACTIVELY
DOESN’T START PROACTIVELY DOESN’T DOING THIS, NOT JUST ON
DOESN’T DOING THIS, NOT JUST ON THE "TR" BUT ON SHIPS ALL OVER
THE "TR" BUT ON SHIPS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND ON SHIPS THAT ARE
THE WORLD AND ON SHIPS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SURGE IF OTHER
GOING TO HAVE TO SURGE IF OTHER SHIPS GO DOWN, IF YOU DON’T DO
SHIPS GO DOWN, IF YOU DON’T DO SOME OF THESE BASIC THINGS, THE
SOME OF THESE BASIC THINGS, THE READINESS OF THE NAVY IS JUST
READINESS OF THE NAVY IS JUST GOING TO GO AWAY.
GOING TO GO AWAY. BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE
BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE SAILORS, AND IF YOU DON’T HAVE
SAILORS, AND IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE FLOATO O
THE FLOATO O THE PROTOCOLS IN PLACE TO MAKE
THE PROTOCOLS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT BEING SPREAD IN
SURE THIS IS NOT BEING SPREAD IN SUCH CLOSE QUARTERS, I BELIEVE
SUCH CLOSE QUARTERS, I BELIEVE THIS SHIP WAS CALLED A PETRIE
THIS SHIP WAS CALLED A PETRIE DISH FOR THE SPREAD OF THIS
DISH FOR THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS.
VIRUS. SO THE NAVY HAS TO BECOME MORE
SO THE NAVY HAS TO BECOME MORE PROACTIVE HERE.
PROACTIVE HERE. >> YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE UPSET
>> YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE UPSET AND THE WORRY IN GUAM.
AND THE WORRY IN GUAM. GUAM PUT IN VERY STRICT
GUAM PUT IN VERY STRICT RESTRICTIONS TO TRY TO LIMIT
RESTRICTIONS TO TRY TO LIMIT THEIR EXPOSURE TO THE VIRUS.
THEIR EXPOSURE TO THE VIRUS. THEY DO HAVE VERY LIMITED
THEY DO HAVE VERY LIMITED RESOURCES.
RESOURCES. AS I MENTIONED, 15 ICU BEDS ON
AS I MENTIONED, 15 ICU BEDS ON THE WHOLE ISLAND.
THE WHOLE ISLAND. ANOTHER SIX IN THE NAVY
ANOTHER SIX IN THE NAVY HOSPITAL.
HOSPITAL. TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THE
TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON GUAM, A
POTENTIAL IMPACT ON GUAM, A TNLDZ CONCERNAND
TNLDZ CONCERNAND THE CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE
THE CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN
THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE MILITARY CAN
TERMS OF WHAT THE MILITARY CAN DO THAT THEY COULD KIND OF SURGE
DO THAT THEY COULD KIND OF SURGE INTO PLACE TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE
INTO PLACE TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE
THE CONCERNS OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE THERE?
THERE? IT FEELS JUST LIKE AN
IT FEELS JUST LIKE AN IRRETRIEVABLE BREACH.
IRRETRIEVABLE BREACH. >> WELL, YOU CAN SURGE THINGS
>> WELL, YOU CAN SURGE THINGS LIKE GLOBAL FIELDHOUSES THAT THE
LIKE GLOBAL FIELDHOUSES THAT THE MARINE S
MARINE S MARINES HAVE.
MARINES HAVE. YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF AS MANY
YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN.
PEOPLE AS YOU CAN. THE NAVY AND THE MARINES ARE
THE NAVY AND THE MARINES ARE BOTH COMPLETELY EXPEDITIONARY.
BOTH COMPLETELY EXPEDITIONARY. THEY CAN GET STUFF TO A PLACE
THEY CAN GET STUFF TO A PLACE VERY QUICKLY.
VERY QUICKLY. AND I FEEL FOR GUAM.
AND I FEEL FOR GUAM. BUT YOU’VE GOT TO -- YOU’VE GOT
BUT YOU’VE GOT TO -- YOU’VE GOT TO BEGIN TO DO THIS.
TO BEGIN TO DO THIS. AND I FEEL FOR THE NAVY.
AND I FEEL FOR THE NAVY. THEY’RE IN A VERY TOUGH SPOT,
THEY’RE IN A VERY TOUGH SPOT, BECAUSE THEY’RE BEING TOLD,
BECAUSE THEY’RE BEING TOLD, NUMBER ONE, TAKE CARE OF YOUR
NUMBER ONE, TAKE CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. BUT NUMBER TWO, KEEP DOING ALL
BUT NUMBER TWO, KEEP DOING ALL YOUR MISSIONS.
YOUR MISSIONS. KEEP BEING READY FOR ANYTHING.
KEEP BEING READY FOR ANYTHING. AND THAT CAPTAIN PUT IT VERY
AND THAT CAPTAIN PUT IT VERY WELL.
WELL. IN YOU’RE IN A WAR, THEN YES,
IN YOU’RE IN A WAR, THEN YES, WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A CHANCE.
WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A CHANCE. WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A CHANCE ON
WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A CHANCE ON THIS VIRUS SPREADING.
THIS VIRUS SPREADING. BUT IF YOU’RE NOT, DON’T DO IT.
BUT IF YOU’RE NOT, DON’T DO IT. TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS.
TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS. SURGE A MARINE FIELD HOSPITAL
SURGE A MARINE FIELD HOSPITAL THAT’S GOT SOME ICU BEDS, THAT
THAT’S GOT SOME ICU BEDS, THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE.
CAN TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE. THE CARRIER ITSELF HAS A FAIRLY
THE CARRIER ITSELF HAS A FAIRLY LARGE HOSPITAL ON IT.
LARGE HOSPITAL ON IT. NOT MANY ICU FACILITIES, BUT TO
NOT MANY ICU FACILITIES, BUT TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO
TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON’T NEED THE INTENSIVE ICU
DON’T NEED THE INTENSIVE ICU THINGS.
THINGS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE
THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.
DONE. BUT THEY’RE IN A VERY TOUGH
BUT THEY’RE IN A VERY TOUGH PLACE, BECAUSE THEY’RE BEING
PLACE, BECAUSE THEY’RE BEING TOLD BY THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
TOLD BY THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE DO BOTH THESE THINGS, AND HE’S
DO BOTH THESE THINGS, AND HE’S KEYING OFF WHAT THIS PRESIDENT
KEYING OFF WHAT THIS PRESIDENT IS SAYING.
IS SAYING. YOU KNOW, KEEP DOING YOUR NORMAL
YOU KNOW, KEEP DOING YOUR NORMAL THINGS, BUT BY THE WAY, PROTECT
THINGS, BUT BY THE WAY, PROTECT YOURSELF.
YOURSELF. >> FORMER GOVERNOR OF THE GREAT
>> FORMER GOVERNOR OF THE GREAT STATE OF MISSISSIPPI, FORMER
STATE OF MISSISSIPPI, FORMER SECRETARY OF THE NAVY, SPEAKING
SECRETARY OF THE NAVY, SPEAKING OUT TODAY ABOUT THE FACT THAT
OUT TODAY ABOUT THE FACT THAT STATE DOES NOT YET HAVE A
STATE DOES NOT YET HAVE A SHELTER IN PLACE OR STAY AT HOME
SHELTER IN PLACE OR STAY AT HOME ORDERS IN EFFECT STATEWIDE.
ORDERS IN EFFECT STATEWIDE. GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR MAKING

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