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MSNBC 23 Apr 2020

Biden Leads Trump In Two Key Battleground States: Poll

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Former VP Joe Biden is leading the president by eight points in the key battleground states of Pennsylvania and in Michigan, according to new polling. The panel discusses the new numbers. Aired on 04/23/2020.


Joe Biden leads the president by five points nationally, according to new CNN/SSRS polling. Trump is also trailing Biden by 15 points among voters over 65 in polling. The panel discusses. Aired on 05/14/2020.
Joe Biden is leading the president by 10 points in a general election match-up according to new polling. The Morning Joe panel digs into the numbers. Aired on 04/28/2020.
Former VP Joe Biden is leading the president by nine points in a general election match up, according to new polling. The panel discusses. Aired 5/7/2020.
As lockdown measures press on, partisan cracks are forming in key battleground states that are crucial to the November elections.

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>>> JOE BIDEN HAS AN 8-POINT
>>> JOE BIDEN HAS AN 8-POINT LEAD OVER THE PRESIDENT IN THE
LEAD OVER THE PRESIDENT IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES OF MICHIGAN
BATTLEGROUND STATES OF MICHIGAN AND PENNSYLVANIA, AND A 4-POINT
AND PENNSYLVANIA, AND A 4-POINT LEAD IN FLORIDA.
LEAD IN FLORIDA. AMONG PENNSYLVANIA VOTERS, BIDEN
AMONG PENNSYLVANIA VOTERS, BIDEN LEADS PRESIDENT TRUMP 50% TO
LEADS PRESIDENT TRUMP 50% TO THIS 242%
THIS 242% IN A FOX NEWS POLL.
IN A FOX NEWS POLL. UP 7 POINTS AMONG PENNSYLVANIA’S
UP 7 POINTS AMONG PENNSYLVANIA’S BABY BOOMERS.
BABY BOOMERS. IN MICHIGAN, BIDEN IS UP 8
IN MICHIGAN, BIDEN IS UP 8 POINTS OVERALL AGAINST TRUMP.
POINTS OVERALL AGAINST TRUMP. 49% TO 41%.
49% TO 41%. INCLUDING UP BY 18 POINTS AMONG
INCLUDING UP BY 18 POINTS AMONG BABY BOOMERS IN THAT STATE.
BABY BOOMERS IN THAT STATE. AND IN A NEW QUINNIPIAC POLL OF
AND IN A NEW QUINNIPIAC POLL OF FLORIDA VOTERS, BIDEN LEADS
FLORIDA VOTERS, BIDEN LEADS PRESIDENT TRUMP 46% TO 42%.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 46% TO 42%. THAT INCLUDES A 10-POINT LEAD
THAT INCLUDES A 10-POINT LEAD OVER TRUMP WITH VOTERS 65 AND
OVER TRUMP WITH VOTERS 65 AND OLDER.
OLDER. KASIE HUNT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF
KASIE HUNT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VOTERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT THIS
VOTERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT THIS SITUATION SERIOUSLY, WHICH IS
SITUATION SERIOUSLY, WHICH IS MOST AT THIS POINT, THEY CAN SEE
MOST AT THIS POINT, THEY CAN SEE THERE’S CLARITY WITH BIDEN.
THERE’S CLARITY WITH BIDEN. THEY MAY NOT AGREE WITH
THEY MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE’S SAYING, AND A
EVERYTHING HE’S SAYING, AND A LOT OF THE BIDEN ADS SAY THAT.
LOT OF THE BIDEN ADS SAY THAT. YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH
YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAYS, BUT YOU KNOW
EVERYTHING HE SAYS, BUT YOU KNOW WHERE HE STANDS.
WHERE HE STANDS. YOU KNOW HE IS A GOOD MAN.
YOU KNOW HE IS A GOOD MAN. YOU CAN POINT TO THE FACT THAT,
YOU CAN POINT TO THE FACT THAT, LERL
LERL EARLY ON, BIDEN MADE A CLEAR AND
EARLY ON, BIDEN MADE A CLEAR AND STARK WARNING ABOUT THIS IN A
STARK WARNING ABOUT THIS IN A PIECE IN "USA TODAY."
PIECE IN "USA TODAY." HE’S GOT A REAL TRACK RECORD AS
HE’S GOT A REAL TRACK RECORD AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS PANDEMIC.
IT PERTAINS TO THIS PANDEMIC. >> HE ACTUALLY DID THAT IN
>> HE ACTUALLY DID THAT IN JANUARY, THE END OF JANUARY.
JANUARY, THE END OF JANUARY. KASIE, HE SAID, THINGS ARE GOING
KASIE, HE SAID, THINGS ARE GOING TO GET WORSE.
TO GET WORSE. YOU HAD THE PRESIDENT THREE
YOU HAD THE PRESIDENT THREE WEEKS LATER SAYING THIS IS GOING
WEEKS LATER SAYING THIS IS GOING TO MAGICALLY GO AWAY.
TO MAGICALLY GO AWAY. IT’S A HOAX.
IT’S A HOAX. THE PRESS IS HYPING IT UP.
THE PRESS IS HYPING IT UP. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT MAY THINK HE CAN KILL
PRESIDENT MAY THINK HE CAN KILL PEOPLE ON FIFTH AVENUE, AND HIS
PEOPLE ON FIFTH AVENUE, AND HIS SUPPORTERS WON’T CARE.
SUPPORTERS WON’T CARE. THEY DO CARE THOUGH IF HE DOES
THEY DO CARE THOUGH IF HE DOES THINGS THAT THREATEN THEIR LIVES
THINGS THAT THREATEN THEIR LIVES AND THE LIVES OF THEIR LOVED
AND THE LIVES OF THEIR LOVED ONES.
ONES. >> Reporter: JOE, WE HAVE TALKED
>> Reporter: JOE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT SO MANY TIMES.
ABOUT THAT SO MANY TIMES. THE PRESIDENT SEEMED, BASICALLY,
THE PRESIDENT SEEMED, BASICALLY, BULLET PROOF WITH THE PEOPLE
BULLET PROOF WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPORTING HIM THE
THAT WERE SUPPORTING HIM THE MOST.
MOST. BUT THIS CRISIS IS SOMETHING
BUT THIS CRISIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS DRAWN LITERALLY EVERY
THAT HAS DRAWN LITERALLY EVERY AMERICAN INTO THE POLITICAL
AMERICAN INTO THE POLITICAL DEBATE
DEBATE DEBATE.
DEBATE. EVEN THOSE WHO WERE SICK OF IT,
EVEN THOSE WHO WERE SICK OF IT, A GOOD CHUNK OF THE MIDDLE OF
A GOOD CHUNK OF THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY WHO TUNED IT OUT,
THE COUNTRY WHO TUNED IT OUT, THEY ARE ENGAGED.
THEY ARE ENGAGED. THEY ARE WATCHING EVERY SINGLE
THEY ARE WATCHING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
DAY. WHAT DO WE ALL NEED MORE THAN
WHAT DO WE ALL NEED MORE THAN ANYTHING RIGHT NOW?
ANYTHING RIGHT NOW? WE NEED A COMPETENT, FUNCTIONAL
WE NEED A COMPETENT, FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. THAT’S AT THE FEDERAL
THAT’S AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE LEVEL, AT
GOVERNMENT, THE STATE LEVEL, AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
THE LOCAL LEVEL. EVERYBODY NEEDS THE GOVERNMENT
EVERYBODY NEEDS THE GOVERNMENT TO FUNCTION.
TO FUNCTION. WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT THAT JOE
WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT THAT JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN MAKING ALL THE
BIDEN HAS BEEN MAKING ALL THE WAY ALONG?
WAY ALONG? HE HAS BEEN SAYING, "I WILL
HE HAS BEEN SAYING, "I WILL RETURN TO A MORE NORMAL, MORE
RETURN TO A MORE NORMAL, MORE FUNCTIONAL TIME."
FUNCTIONAL TIME." THAT HAS BEEN THE MESSAGE HE HAS
THAT HAS BEEN THE MESSAGE HE HAS BEEN SENDING TO VOTERS THIS
BEEN SENDING TO VOTERS THIS ENTIRE TIME, IN A VERY
ENTIRE TIME, IN A VERY CONSISTENT WAY.
CONSISTENT WAY. BEFORE THIS CRISIS, WHEN YOU HAD
BEFORE THIS CRISIS, WHEN YOU HAD PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AND ON THE
PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AND ON THE RIGHT AS THE MOST ENGAGED GROUPS
RIGHT AS THE MOST ENGAGED GROUPS IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, THAT
IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, THAT MESSAGE, MAYBE IT DIDN’T EXCITE
MESSAGE, MAYBE IT DIDN’T EXCITE THE LEFT.
THE LEFT. MAYBE THERE WERE PRODEPRESSIVEGR
MAYBE THERE WERE PRODEPRESSIVEGR WHO THOUGHT IT WAS MILK, TOAST,
WHO THOUGHT IT WAS MILK, TOAST, AND BLAND.
AND BLAND. BUT WHEN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS
BUT WHEN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS ENGAGED IN THIS CONVERSATION,
ENGAGED IN THIS CONVERSATION, AND LITERALLY HAS THEIR LIVES AT
AND LITERALLY HAS THEIR LIVES AT STAKE, IN THE COMPETENCE OF OUR
STAKE, IN THE COMPETENCE OF OUR GOVERNMENT -- AND WE HAVE WALKED
GOVERNMENT -- AND WE HAVE WALKED THROUGH ALL THE WAYS IN WHICH
THROUGH ALL THE WAYS IN WHICH OUR GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED US
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED US OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FOUR
OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FOUR OR SO MONTHS THAT THIS HAS BEEN
OR SO MONTHS THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON -- SUDDENLY, JOE BIDEN
GOING ON -- SUDDENLY, JOE BIDEN STARTS TO LOOK A LOT BETTER.
STARTS TO LOOK A LOT BETTER. THOSE POLL NUMBERS ARE BARING
THOSE POLL NUMBERS ARE BARING THAT OUT.
THAT OUT. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE
I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE QUOTES.
QUOTES. YOU MATCH UP WHAT JOE BIDEN AND
YOU MATCH UP WHAT JOE BIDEN AND HIS PEOPLE WERE SAYING WITH WHAT
HIS PEOPLE WERE SAYING WITH WHAT DONALD TRUMP WAS SAYING
DONALD TRUMP WAS SAYING THROUGHOUT FEBRUARY.
THROUGHOUT FEBRUARY. >> STEADY, NOT STEADY.
>> STEADY, NOT STEADY. >> FORGET THAT, THE LIKE HIM,
>> FORGET THAT, THE LIKE HIM, NOT LIKE HIM.
NOT LIKE HIM. HOW ABOUT THE RIGHT AND WRONG?
HOW ABOUT THE RIGHT AND WRONG? >> THAT, TOO.
>> THAT, TOO. >> END OF JANUARY, HE SAID THE
>> END OF JANUARY, HE SAID THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO LISTEN TO HIS
PRESIDENT NEEDS TO LISTEN TO HIS DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS.
DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS. THE END OF JANUARY, HE SAID,
THE END OF JANUARY, HE SAID, "THIS IS GOING TO GET WORSE
"THIS IS GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER."
BEFORE IT GETS BETTER." DONALD TRUMP SPENT ALL FEBRUARY
DONALD TRUMP SPENT ALL FEBRUARY SAYING THIS WAS MAGICALLY GOING
SAYING THIS WAS MAGICALLY GOING TO GO AWAY IN APRIL.
TO GO AWAY IN APRIL. >> STOP RIGHT THERE.
>> STOP RIGHT THERE. MORE THAN 45,000 PEOPLE HAVE
MORE THAN 45,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED.
DIED. MORE THAN 45,000 PEOPLE THAT WE
MORE THAN 45,000 PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW OF.
KNOW OF. >> AGAIN, THE PRESIDENT, TIME
>> AGAIN, THE PRESIDENT, TIME AND AGAIN, SAID, "IT’S ONE
AND AGAIN, SAID, "IT’S ONE PERSON.
PERSON. IT’S 11 PEOPLE.
IT’S 11 PEOPLE. IT’S 15 PEOPLE.
IT’S 15 PEOPLE. SOON IT’LL BE DOWN TO ZERO."
SOON IT’LL BE DOWN TO ZERO." HERE’S THE THING, JONATHAN
HERE’S THE THING, JONATHAN LEMIRE.
LEMIRE. THE PRESIDENT FOUND OUT, HE SAW
THE PRESIDENT FOUND OUT, HE SAW THE STUDY THAT SAID UP TO 2.2
THE STUDY THAT SAID UP TO 2.2 MILLION PEOPLE WOULD DIE IF WE
MILLION PEOPLE WOULD DIE IF WE RELIED ON HERD IMMUNITY.
RELIED ON HERD IMMUNITY. GOT SERIOUS, SUPPOSEDLY.
GOT SERIOUS, SUPPOSEDLY. GOT SERIOUS.
GOT SERIOUS. BUT THEN HE DARTED BACK.
BUT THEN HE DARTED BACK. WHAT I DON’T UNDERSTAND IS THIS
WHAT I DON’T UNDERSTAND IS THIS HAS BEEN OBVIOUS.
HAS BEEN OBVIOUS. LIKE, MY PROFESSOR PIERCESON AT
LIKE, MY PROFESSOR PIERCESON AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA SAID,
THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA SAID, "YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING,
"YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING, JOE, LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN OUT OF
JOE, LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN OUT OF THE MIST."
THE MIST." DONALD TRUMP SHOULD HAVE SEEN
DONALD TRUMP SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT.
IT. HOOK AT THE NUMBER
HOOK AT THE NUMBER LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN THE SWING
LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN THE SWING STATES.
STATES. HE WON BECAUSE OLDER WHITE DUDES
HE WON BECAUSE OLDER WHITE DUDES BROKE HIS WAY IN PENNSYLVANIA,
BROKE HIS WAY IN PENNSYLVANIA, IN MICHIGAN, IN WISCONSIN.
IN MICHIGAN, IN WISCONSIN. HE’S LOSING NOW.
HE’S LOSING NOW. OF COURSE, IN PENNSYLVANIA, BY 8
OF COURSE, IN PENNSYLVANIA, BY 8 POINTS.
POINTS. HE’S LOSING IN MICHIGAN.
HE’S LOSING IN MICHIGAN. HE’S LOSING, YOU KNOW, BADLY IN
HE’S LOSING, YOU KNOW, BADLY IN MICHIGAN, BY 8 POINTS.
MICHIGAN, BY 8 POINTS. YOU LOOK AT THE SENIOR
YOU LOOK AT THE SENIOR BREAKDOWN.
BREAKDOWN. HE’S LOSING IN FLORIDA.
HE’S LOSING IN FLORIDA. YOU LOOK AT THE SENIOR
YOU LOOK AT THE SENIOR BREAKDOWN.
BREAKDOWN. BY THE WAY, WHO COULD HAVE EVER
BY THE WAY, WHO COULD HAVE EVER GUESSED THERE WERE SENIOR
GUESSED THERE WERE SENIOR CITIZENS IN FLORIDA?
CITIZENS IN FLORIDA? WHO EVER SAW THAT COMING?
WHO EVER SAW THAT COMING? LIKE, JONATHAN, I KNOW I ASKED
LIKE, JONATHAN, I KNOW I ASKED YOU THIS YESTERDAY ON INSTAGRAM
YOU THIS YESTERDAY ON INSTAGRAM LIVE.
LIVE. I’VE ASKED YOU THIS ON THE SHOW
I’VE ASKED YOU THIS ON THE SHOW AGAIN.
AGAIN. PLEASE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND.
PLEASE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND. WHY DOESN’T DONALD TRUMP
WHY DOESN’T DONALD TRUMP UNDERSTAND THIS MOST BASIC
UNDERSTAND THIS MOST BASIC POLITICAL REALITY?
POLITICAL REALITY? >> BECAUSE, JOE, HE ALWAYS
>> BECAUSE, JOE, HE ALWAYS ASSERTS HIS OWN VERSION OF
ASSERTS HIS OWN VERSION OF REALITY.
REALITY. HE DID AS A PRYIEVATE CITIZEN, A
HE DID AS A PRYIEVATE CITIZEN, A A CANDIDATE, AND AS A PRESIDENT.
A CANDIDATE, AND AS A PRESIDENT. HE BELIEVES THROUGH SHEER FORCE
HE BELIEVES THROUGH SHEER FORCE OF WILL HE CAN CHANGE THE
OF WILL HE CAN CHANGE THE NARRATIVE, AND THAT HE BELIEVES
NARRATIVE, AND THAT HE BELIEVES HIS VOTERS, HIS LOYAL BASE, WILL
HIS VOTERS, HIS LOYAL BASE, WILL STAY WITH HIM.
STAY WITH HIM. WE’RE SEEING WITH THIS CRYISIS
WE’RE SEEING WITH THIS CRYISIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, THAT’S
FOR THE FIRST TIME, THAT’S SLIMMING AWAY.
SLIMMING AWAY. HIS CAMPAIGN IS NERVOUS ABOUT
HIS CAMPAIGN IS NERVOUS ABOUT BABY BOOMERS, OLDER AMERICANS
BABY BOOMERS, OLDER AMERICANS DEFECTING FROM THE PRESIDENT,
DEFECTING FROM THE PRESIDENT, PARTICULARLY IN THE BATTLEGROUND
PARTICULARLY IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES.
STATES. JOE BIDEN IS POLLING BETTER
JOE BIDEN IS POLLING BETTER AMONG OLDER AMERICANS THAN
AMONG OLDER AMERICANS THAN HILLARY CLINTON DID FOUR YEARS
HILLARY CLINTON DID FOUR YEARS AGO.
AGO. THERE IS CONCERN.
THERE IS CONCERN. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, PEOPLE I
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, PEOPLE I TALK TO AREN’T READY TO
TALK TO AREN’T READY TO WRITE-OFF MICHIGAN, BUT ALREADY
WRITE-OFF MICHIGAN, BUT ALREADY PUT MICHIGAN IN A CATEGORY THAT
PUT MICHIGAN IN A CATEGORY THAT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR HIM
WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO KEEP THIS TIME AROUND,
TO KEEP THIS TIME AROUND, PARTICULARLY IN THE WAKE OF THIS
PARTICULARLY IN THE WAKE OF THIS FEUD WITH THE GOVERNOR THERE.
FEUD WITH THE GOVERNOR THERE. IF HE LOSES MICHIGAN, HE HAS TO
IF HE LOSES MICHIGAN, HE HAS TO HOLD ONE OF PENNSYLVANIA OR
HOLD ONE OF PENNSYLVANIA OR WISCONSIN.
WISCONSIN. HE’D HAVE TO HOLD BOTH IF JOE
HE’D HAVE TO HOLD BOTH IF JOE BIDEN IS TAKE TOABLE TO PLUCK AW
BIDEN IS TAKE TOABLE TO PLUCK AW ARIZONA.
ARIZONA. IT IS ANOTHER PLACE WITH OLDER
IT IS ANOTHER PLACE WITH OLDER AMERICANS WHERE BIDEN IS
AMERICANS WHERE BIDEN IS TRENDING WELL.
TRENDING WELL. FLORIDA IS THE BALL GAME FOR THE
FLORIDA IS THE BALL GAME FOR THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. IF HE LOSES FLORIDA, HE
IF HE LOSES FLORIDA, HE VIRTUALLY HAS NO PATH TO
VIRTUALLY HAS NO PATH TO VICTORY.
VICTORY. >>> UP NEXT, HOW TO AVOID A
>>> UP NEXT, HOW TO AVOID A PANDEMIC PATRIOT ACT.
PANDEMIC PATRIOT ACT. DAVID IGNATIUS JOINS US WITH HIS
DAVID IGNATIUS JOINS US WITH HIS NEW, MUST-READ COLUMN IN THE
NEW, MUST-READ COLUMN IN THE "WASHINGTON POST."
"WASHINGTON POST." >>> PLUS, YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD
>>> PLUS, YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD US SAY IT A FEW HUNDRED TIMES.
US SAY IT A FEW HUNDRED TIMES. WITHOUT MORE TESTS, AMERICA
WITHOUT MORE TESTS, AMERICA CANNOT REOPEN.
CANNOT REOPEN. TO MAKE MATTERS WORK, DR. ZEKE
TO MAKE MATTERS WORK, DR. ZEKE EMANUEL SAYS WE ARE TESTING THE

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