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MSNBC 13 Feb 2020

Barr Admits Stone Case Intervention, Complains About Trump's Tweets

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In a new interview, Trump's attorney general Bill Barr tells ABC News that he did get involved in the Roger Stone case and says Trump's tweets make it 'impossible' to do his job. Aired on 02/13/20.


Attorney General William Barr says in an interview that President Trump's tweets make it "impossible" for him to do his job. Congressional reporter for the Los Angeles Times Jennifer Haberkorn and McClatchy White House correspondent Francesca Chambers join CBSN's "Red & Blue" with more.
Delivering her weekly address, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi slammed Trump's proposed budget, criticized his tax cut policy, and spoke out against his tweeting about the DOJ taking over the Roger Stone case.
President Trump is insisting he didn't tell Attorney General William Barr to intervene in the Roger Stone case, even though he says he has the "legal right" to do so. This comes as Barr said Trump should not tweet about Justice Department matters. CBS News White House correspondent Paula Reid and Politico's Anita Kumar join CBSN with more.
The president on Thursday tweeted that the forewoman of the federal jury that heard the case against Roger Stone had 'significant bias.' The panel discusses Trump's weighing in on the Stone case. Aired on 2/14/2020.

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>>> WELL, GOOD EVENING ONCE
>>> WELL, GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN FROM OUR NBC NEWS
AGAIN FROM OUR NBC NEWS HEADQUARTERS HERE IN NEW YORK.
HEADQUARTERS HERE IN NEW YORK. DAY 1,120 OF THIS TRUMP
DAY 1,120 OF THIS TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. 264 DAYS TO GO UNTIL THE 2020
264 DAYS TO GO UNTIL THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. AND TONIGHT IN A NEW INTERVIEW,
AND TONIGHT IN A NEW INTERVIEW, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, BILL BARR,
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, BILL BARR, WHO HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT
WHO HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT SUPREMELY LOYAL TO AND
SUPREMELY LOYAL TO AND PROTECTIVE OF THE MAN WHO
PROTECTIVE OF THE MAN WHO APPOINTED HIM TO OFFICE, SEEMS
APPOINTED HIM TO OFFICE, SEEMS TO BE SAYING TWO THINGS.
TO BE SAYING TWO THINGS. SURE, HE INTERVENED IN LOWERING
SURE, HE INTERVENED IN LOWERING THE RECOMMENDED PRISON SENTENCE
THE RECOMMENDED PRISON SENTENCE FOR TRUMP’S FRIEND ROGER STONE,
FOR TRUMP’S FRIEND ROGER STONE, WHO IS A CONVICTED FELON.
WHO IS A CONVICTED FELON. BUT HE WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE
BUT HE WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE TWEETS FROM THE PRESIDENT, WHICH
TWEETS FROM THE PRESIDENT, WHICH IS HOW WE KNOW HOW PRESIDENT
IS HOW WE KNOW HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTED THE SENTENCE
TRUMP WANTED THE SENTENCE LOWERED -- THOSE TWEETS REALLY
LOWERED -- THOSE TWEETS REALLY MAKE HIS JOB IMPOSSIBLE.
MAKE HIS JOB IMPOSSIBLE. BARR SPOKE TO ABC NEWS ABOUT HIS
BARR SPOKE TO ABC NEWS ABOUT HIS DECISION TO OVERALL FEDERAL
DECISION TO OVERALL FEDERAL PROSECUTORS WHO HAD LOWERED
PROSECUTORS WHO HAD LOWERED FEDERAL GUIDELINES RECOMMENDING
FEDERAL GUIDELINES RECOMMENDING A SEVEN TO NINE YEAR PRISON TERM
A SEVEN TO NINE YEAR PRISON TERM FOR STONE.
FOR STONE. HE GOES ON TO SEEM TO COMPLAIN
HE GOES ON TO SEEM TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S SOCIAL
ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S SOCIAL MEDIA HABITS.
MEDIA HABITS. >> I HAD MADE A DECISION THAT I
>> I HAD MADE A DECISION THAT I THOUGHT WAS FAIR AND REASONABLE
THOUGHT WAS FAIR AND REASONABLE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. AND ONCE THE TWEET OCCURRED, THE
AND ONCE THE TWEET OCCURRED, THE QUESTION IS, WELL, NOW WHAT DO I
QUESTION IS, WELL, NOW WHAT DO I DO?
DO? TO HAVE PUBLIC STATEMENTS AND
TO HAVE PUBLIC STATEMENTS AND TWEETS MADE ABOUT THE
TWEETS MADE ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT, ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE
DEPARTMENT, ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT, OUR MEN AND WOMEN
DEPARTMENT, OUR MEN AND WOMEN HERE, ABOUT CASES PENDING IN THE
HERE, ABOUT CASES PENDING IN THE DEPARTMENT, AND ABOUT JUDGES
DEPARTMENT, AND ABOUT JUDGES BEFORE WHOM WE HAVE CASES MAKE
BEFORE WHOM WE HAVE CASES MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO DO MY
IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO DO MY JOB.
JOB. I’M NOT GOING TO BE BULLIED OR
I’M NOT GOING TO BE BULLIED OR INFLUENCED BY ANYBODY WHETHER
INFLUENCED BY ANYBODY WHETHER IT’S CONGRESS, A NEWSPAPER,
IT’S CONGRESS, A NEWSPAPER, EDITORIAL BOARDS, OR THE
EDITORIAL BOARDS, OR THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. >> DID YOU TALK TO THE PRESIDENT
>> DID YOU TALK TO THE PRESIDENT AT ALL ABOUT YOUR DECISION
AT ALL ABOUT YOUR DECISION REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS?
REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS? >> NEVER.
>> NEVER. >> JUST AS BARR WAS TALKING, THE
>> JUST AS BARR WAS TALKING, THE PRESIDENT WAS SOUNDING THANKFUL
PRESIDENT WAS SOUNDING THANKFUL FOR HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL DURING
FOR HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL DURING A RADIO INTERVIEW WITH GERALDO
A RADIO INTERVIEW WITH GERALDO RIVERA.
RIVERA. >> DO YOU EVER WONDER WHAT YOUR
>> DO YOU EVER WONDER WHAT YOUR LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE IF YOU
LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE IF YOU HAD PICKED WILLIAM BARR INSTEAD
HAD PICKED WILLIAM BARR INSTEAD OF JEFF SESSIONS WHEN YOU --
OF JEFF SESSIONS WHEN YOU -- >> YEAH, MY LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN
>> YEAH, MY LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT EASIER.
A LOT EASIER. >> THE COUNTRY’S LIFE?
>> THE COUNTRY’S LIFE? >> YEP.
>> YEP. MY LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT
MY LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT EASIER.
EASIER. BUT I MIGHT HAVE BEEN LESS
BUT I MIGHT HAVE BEEN LESS POPULAR BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY
POPULAR BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY LIKE THAT I FOUGHT IT.
LIKE THAT I FOUGHT IT. THEY LIKE THAT I WON.
THEY LIKE THAT I WON. THEY LIKE THAT MY BASE IS MUCH
THEY LIKE THAT MY BASE IS MUCH MORE ENERGIZED.
MORE ENERGIZED. >> NEW REPORTING FROM "THE NEW
>> NEW REPORTING FROM "THE NEW YORK TIMES" INDICATES THE LOYAL
YORK TIMES" INDICATES THE LOYAL ATTORNEY GENERAL MAY BE PURSUING
ATTORNEY GENERAL MAY BE PURSUING ANOTHER LEGAL AREA OF GREAT
ANOTHER LEGAL AREA OF GREAT INTEREST TO HIS BOSS.
INTEREST TO HIS BOSS. ACCORDING TO THE NEWSPAPER,
ACCORDING TO THE NEWSPAPER, TRUMP JUSTICE OFFICIALS
TRUMP JUSTICE OFFICIALS INVESTIGATING THE GOVERNMENT’S
INVESTIGATING THE GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE TO RUSSIA’S ELECTION
RESPONSE TO RUSSIA’S ELECTION INTERFERENCE BACK IN ’16 MAY BE
INTERFERENCE BACK IN ’16 MAY BE SEARCHING FOR REASONS TO ACCUSE
SEARCHING FOR REASONS TO ACCUSE OBAMA-ERA INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS
OBAMA-ERA INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS OF HIDING EVIDENCE OR
OF HIDING EVIDENCE OR MANIPULATING ANALYSIS ABOUT THE
MANIPULATING ANALYSIS ABOUT THE KREMLIN’S OPERATION.
KREMLIN’S OPERATION. "THE TIMES" NOTES THAT JOHN
"THE TIMES" NOTES THAT JOHN DURHAM, THE CONNECTICUT-BASED
DURHAM, THE CONNECTICUT-BASED U.S. ATTORNEY TEMPORARILY
U.S. ATTORNEY TEMPORARILY ASSIGNED BY BARR TO LEAD THIS
ASSIGNED BY BARR TO LEAD THIS INVESTIGATION, IS EXECUTE NICING
INVESTIGATION, IS EXECUTE NICING THE ACTIONS OF AVOWED TRUMP
THE ACTIONS OF AVOWED TRUMP ENEMY JOHN BRENNAN, THE FORMER
ENEMY JOHN BRENNAN, THE FORMER CIA DIRECTOR UNDER OBAMA.
CIA DIRECTOR UNDER OBAMA. TONIGHT BRENNAN WAS ASKED ABOUT
TONIGHT BRENNAN WAS ASKED ABOUT IT.
IT. >> IS THERE A CRIMINAL
>> IS THERE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION NOW ON ANALYTIC
INVESTIGATION NOW ON ANALYTIC JUDGMENTS AND THE ACTIVITIES OF
JUDGMENTS AND THE ACTIVITIES OF CIA IN TERMS OF TRYING TO
CIA IN TERMS OF TRYING TO PROTECT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY?
PROTECT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY? I’M CERTAINLY WILLING TO TALK TO
I’M CERTAINLY WILLING TO TALK TO MR. DURHAM OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO
MR. DURHAM OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE
HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE DID DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME
DID DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME IN 2016.
IN 2016. IT CLEARLY, I THINK, IS ANOTHER
IT CLEARLY, I THINK, IS ANOTHER INDICATION THAT DONALD TRUMP IS
INDICATION THAT DONALD TRUMP IS USING THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
USING THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO GO AFTER HIS ENEMIES IN ANY
TO GO AFTER HIS ENEMIES IN ANY WAY THAT HE CAN.
WAY THAT HE CAN. >> THE DAY STARTED WITH NEWS OF
>> THE DAY STARTED WITH NEWS OF SOME UNEXPECTED COMMENTS FROM
SOME UNEXPECTED COMMENTS FROM TRUMP’S FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF,
TRUMP’S FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF, JOHN KELLY, WHO HAS DECIDED TO
JOHN KELLY, WHO HAS DECIDED TO SPEAK CANDIDLY NOW ABOUT WHAT HE
SPEAK CANDIDLY NOW ABOUT WHAT HE SAW ON THE INSIDE, AND HE DID SO
SAW ON THE INSIDE, AND HE DID SO AT A COLLEGE APPEARANCE IN NEW
AT A COLLEGE APPEARANCE IN NEW JERSEY LAST NIGHT.
JERSEY LAST NIGHT. AS REPORTED BY "THE ATLANTIC,"
AS REPORTED BY "THE ATLANTIC," KELLY DEFENDED LIEUTENANT
KELLY DEFENDED LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALEXANDER VINDMAN’S
COLONEL ALEXANDER VINDMAN’S DECISION TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THAT
DECISION TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THAT PHONE CALL WITH THE PRESIDENT OF
PHONE CALL WITH THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE AND DESCRIBED TRUMP’S
UKRAINE AND DESCRIBED TRUMP’S REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATIONS AS AN
REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATIONS AS AN ILLEGAL ORDER.
ILLEGAL ORDER. QUOTE, WE TEACH THEM, MEANING
QUOTE, WE TEACH THEM, MEANING SOLDIERS LIKE VINDMAN, DON’T
SOLDIERS LIKE VINDMAN, DON’T ALLOW ON ILLEGAL ORDER.
ALLOW ON ILLEGAL ORDER. AND IF YOU’RE EVER GIVEN ONE,
AND IF YOU’RE EVER GIVEN ONE, YOU’LL RAISED IT TO WHOEVER
YOU’LL RAISED IT TO WHOEVER GIVES IT TO YOU THAT THIS IS AN
GIVES IT TO YOU THAT THIS IS AN ILLEGAL ORDER AND THEN TELL YOUR
ILLEGAL ORDER AND THEN TELL YOUR BOSS.
BOSS. KELLY CRITICIZED TRUMP’S EFFORTS
KELLY CRITICIZED TRUMP’S EFFORTS TO WIN OVER NORTH KOREAN
TO WIN OVER NORTH KOREAN DICTATOR KIM JONG-UN, SAYING,
DICTATOR KIM JONG-UN, SAYING, QUOTE, HE WILL NEVER GIVE HIS
QUOTE, HE WILL NEVER GIVE HIS NUCLEAR WEAPONS UP.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS UP. I NEVER DID THINK KIM WOULD DO
I NEVER DID THINK KIM WOULD DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN PLAY US FOR
ANYTHING OTHER THAN PLAY US FOR A WHILE, AND HE DID THAT FAIRLY
A WHILE, AND HE DID THAT FAIRLY EFFECTIVELY.
EFFECTIVELY. KELLY ALSO SLAMMED TRUMP’S
KELLY ALSO SLAMMED TRUMP’S DECISION TO REVERSE A DECISION
DECISION TO REVERSE A DECISION TO OUST EDDIE GALLAGHER, THE
TO OUST EDDIE GALLAGHER, THE NAVY S.E.A.L. CONVICTED LAST
NAVY S.E.A.L. CONVICTED LAST YEAR OF POSING WITH THE CORPSE
YEAR OF POSING WITH THE CORPSE OF AN ISLAMIC STATE FIGHTER.
OF AN ISLAMIC STATE FIGHTER. QUOTE, THE IDEA THAT THE
QUOTE, THE IDEA THAT THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF INTERVENED
COMMANDER IN CHIEF INTERVENED THERE, IN MY OPINION, WAS
THERE, IN MY OPINION, WAS EXACTLY THE WRONG THING TO DO.
EXACTLY THE WRONG THING TO DO. HAD I BEEN THERE, I THINK I
HAD I BEEN THERE, I THINK I COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT.
COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT. IT DID NOT TAKE LONG FOR THE
IT DID NOT TAKE LONG FOR THE PRESIDENT TO RESPOND, AND HE DID
PRESIDENT TO RESPOND, AND HE DID SO THIS WAY.
SO THIS WAY. QUOTE, WHEN I TERMINATED JOHN
QUOTE, WHEN I TERMINATED JOHN KELLY, WHICH I COULDN’T DO FAST
KELLY, WHICH I COULDN’T DO FAST ENOUGH, HE KNEW FULL WELL THAT
ENOUGH, HE KNEW FULL WELL THAT HE WAS WAY OVER HIS HEAD.
HE WAS WAY OVER HIS HEAD. HE MISSES THE ACTION AND JUST
HE MISSES THE ACTION AND JUST CAN’T KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT.
CAN’T KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT. KELLY ACTUALLY LEFT THE
KELLY ACTUALLY LEFT THE ADMINISTRATION 3 1/2 WEEKS OR
ADMINISTRATION 3 1/2 WEEKS OR THEREABOUTS AFTER HIS DEPARTURE
THEREABOUTS AFTER HIS DEPARTURE HAD BEEN ANNOUNCED.
HAD BEEN ANNOUNCED. AND NOW ANOTHER OFFICIAL IN
AND NOW ANOTHER OFFICIAL IN EXILE.
EXILE. FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER
FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JOHN BOLTON HAS COME TO KELLY’S
JOHN BOLTON HAS COME TO KELLY’S DEFENSE.
DEFENSE. BOLTON WRITES KELLY IS, QUOTE,
BOLTON WRITES KELLY IS, QUOTE, AN HONORABLE MAN.
AN HONORABLE MAN. JOHN AND I HAVE DISAGREED AT
JOHN AND I HAVE DISAGREED AT TIMES BUT HE HAS ALWAYS SERVED
TIMES BUT HE HAS ALWAYS SERVED HIS COUNTRY FAITHFULLY.
HIS COUNTRY FAITHFULLY. AS ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING, THE
AS ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING, THE PRESIDENT BRINGING SOME FORMER
PRESIDENT BRINGING SOME FORMER WHITE HOUSE STAFFERS BACK.
WHITE HOUSE STAFFERS BACK. FORMER COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR
FORMER COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR HOPE HICKS IS RETURNING WITH A
HOPE HICKS IS RETURNING WITH A NEW TITLE -- COUNSELOR TO THE
NEW TITLE -- COUNSELOR TO THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. SHE’LL BE ASSIGNED TO WORK OUT
SHE’LL BE ASSIGNED TO WORK OUT OF JARED KUSHNER’S WIDE-RANGING
OF JARED KUSHNER’S WIDE-RANGING WEST WING OPERATION.
WEST WING OPERATION. AXIOS TODAY CONFIRMED THAT JOHN
AXIOS TODAY CONFIRMED THAT JOHN McENTEE, PRESIDENT TRUMP’S
McENTEE, PRESIDENT TRUMP’S FORMER BODY MAN, WHO WAS FIRED
FORMER BODY MAN, WHO WAS FIRED BY FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF KELLY
BY FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF KELLY AND ESCORTED OFF THE WHITE HOUSE
AND ESCORTED OFF THE WHITE HOUSE GROUNDS OVER SECURITY CLEARANCE
GROUNDS OVER SECURITY CLEARANCE ISSUES, IS ALSO BACK.
ISSUES, IS ALSO BACK. HE’S EXPECTED TO LEAD THE
HE’S EXPECTED TO LEAD THE PRESIDENTIAL PERSONNEL OFFICE.
PRESIDENTIAL PERSONNEL OFFICE. AXIOS ALSO REPORTS THAT TRUMP,
AXIOS ALSO REPORTS THAT TRUMP, QUOTE, HAS INCREASINGLY BECOME
QUOTE, HAS INCREASINGLY BECOME FURIOUS WITH WHAT HE SEES AS A
FURIOUS WITH WHAT HE SEES AS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FULL OF NEVER
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FULL OF NEVER TRUMPERS AND THAT TRUMP FEELS
TRUMPERS AND THAT TRUMP FEELS HE’S SURROUNDED BY SNAKES AND
HE’S SURROUNDED BY SNAKES AND WANTS TO CLEAR OUT ALL THE
WANTS TO CLEAR OUT ALL THE DISLOYAL PEOPLE.
DISLOYAL PEOPLE. THE PRESIDENT ALSO SAID HE’S
THE PRESIDENT ALSO SAID HE’S THINKING ABOUT CHANGING THE
THINKING ABOUT CHANGING THE POLICY OF HAVING NATIONAL
POLICY OF HAVING NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS AND STAFFERS
SECURITY OFFICIALS AND STAFFERS LISTEN IN ON IMPORTANT PHONE
LISTEN IN ON IMPORTANT PHONE CALLS.
CALLS. >> THAT’S WHAT THEY’VE DONE OVER
>> THAT’S WHAT THEY’VE DONE OVER THE YEARS.
THE YEARS. WHEN YOU CALL A FOREIGN LEADER,
WHEN YOU CALL A FOREIGN LEADER, PEOPLE LISTEN.
PEOPLE LISTEN. I MAY END THE PRACTICE ENTIRELY.
I MAY END THE PRACTICE ENTIRELY. I MAY HAVE -- I MAY END IT
I MAY HAVE -- I MAY END IT ENTIRELY.
ENTIRELY. >> AND LATE TODAY, TRUMP’S
>> AND LATE TODAY, TRUMP’S CURRENT NATIONAL SECURITY
CURRENT NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER WEIGHED IN ON THAT.
ADVISER WEIGHED IN ON THAT. >> THE PRESIDENT CAN HAVE
>> THE PRESIDENT CAN HAVE WHATEVER PHONE CALLS HE WANTS
WHATEVER PHONE CALLS HE WANTS WITHOUT OTHER PEOPLE BEING ON
WITHOUT OTHER PEOPLE BEING ON THE LINE.
THE LINE. BUT I THINK GENERALLY THE
BUT I THINK GENERALLY THE PRESIDENT’S HAPPY IF HE’S GOT
PRESIDENT’S HAPPY IF HE’S GOT SOME OF HIS AIDES WITH HIM.

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