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MSNBC 13 Feb 2020

Baker: Rebuke Of Barr And Trump By Stone Prosecutors' Like A 'Thunderbolt'

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Peter Baker of The New York Times reacts to the Roger Stone prosecutors quitting the case, and the impact that's had inside the Justice Department. Aired on 02/13/20.


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THAT BARR CHOSE TO SO PUBLICLY BREAK FROM THE PRESIDENT ON TV.
BREAK FROM THE PRESIDENT ON TV. IT’S ALMOST LIKE HE’S TRYING TO
IT’S ALMOST LIKE HE’S TRYING TO SEND TRUMP A MESSAGE.
SEND TRUMP A MESSAGE. >> PETER BAKER, TALK ABOUT THE
>> PETER BAKER, TALK ABOUT THE KIND OF PALPABLE SENSE OF
KIND OF PALPABLE SENSE OF HELPLESSNESS ON THE POLITICAL
HELPLESSNESS ON THE POLITICAL LEFT ON THE SUBJECT -- WE’VE
LEFT ON THE SUBJECT -- WE’VE TALKED ABOUT RETRIBUTION.
TALKED ABOUT RETRIBUTION. LET’S TALK ABOUT RECOURSE.
LET’S TALK ABOUT RECOURSE. WHAT DO THE VINDMANS DO?
WHAT DO THE VINDMANS DO? WHAT DO THE FOUR FEDS ON THE
WHAT DO THE FOUR FEDS ON THE INSIDE OF DOJ, WHO DID AS MUCH
INSIDE OF DOJ, WHO DID AS MUCH AS THEY COULD AS OUR GUEST
AS THEY COULD AS OUR GUEST REPORTED LAST NIGHT?
REPORTED LAST NIGHT? THEY CAN’T HOLD A PRESS
THEY CAN’T HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE.
CONFERENCE. WHAT THEY COULD DO WAS KIND OF
WHAT THEY COULD DO WAS KIND OF SHOUT FROM INSIDE THE
SHOUT FROM INSIDE THE INSTITUTION IN THE FORM OF
INSTITUTION IN THE FORM OF WITHDRAWING FROM THIS CASE.
WITHDRAWING FROM THIS CASE. WHEN STRUCTURES OF THE
WHEN STRUCTURES OF THE GOVERNMENT ARE UNDER ATTACK FROM
GOVERNMENT ARE UNDER ATTACK FROM INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT, WHO TO
INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT, WHO TO SEE ABOUT THAT?
SEE ABOUT THAT? WHO’S GOING TO REPORT STUFF IN
WHO’S GOING TO REPORT STUFF IN THE FUTURE?
THE FUTURE? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. IT’S A GREAT QUESTION, AND
IT’S A GREAT QUESTION, AND YOU’RE RIGHT.
YOU’RE RIGHT. THEY’RE NOT HOLDING PRESS
THEY’RE NOT HOLDING PRESS CONFERENCES.
CONFERENCES. THE FOUR PROSECUTORS WHO
THE FOUR PROSECUTORS WHO WITHDREW FROM THE CASE IN ONE
WITHDREW FROM THE CASE IN ONE CASE ACTUALLY RESIGNED
CASE ACTUALLY RESIGNED ALTOGETHER, THEY MADE THEIR
ALTOGETHER, THEY MADE THEIR STATEMENTS IN LEGAL FILINGS.
STATEMENTS IN LEGAL FILINGS. IT WAS LITERALLY A ONE-SENTENCE
IT WAS LITERALLY A ONE-SENTENCE FILING TO THE COURT SAYING THAT
FILING TO THE COURT SAYING THAT THIS ATTORNEY IS WITHDRAWING
THIS ATTORNEY IS WITHDRAWING FROM THE CASE, AND IT FELT LIKE
FROM THE CASE, AND IT FELT LIKE A THUNDERBOLT BECAUSE IT WAS SO
A THUNDERBOLT BECAUSE IT WAS SO EXTRAORDINARY WHAT THE
EXTRAORDINARY WHAT THE IMPLICATION OF THAT SENTENCE
IMPLICATION OF THAT SENTENCE WAS.
WAS. AND I THINK YOU’RE SEEING A
AND I THINK YOU’RE SEEING A CAREER WORKFORCE IN THE FEDERAL
CAREER WORKFORCE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT BE IN THE
GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT BE IN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OR THE STATE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OR THE STATE DEPARTMENT OR THE MILITARY, VERY
DEPARTMENT OR THE MILITARY, VERY MUCH ON EDGE, VERY MUCH
MUCH ON EDGE, VERY MUCH UNCERTAIN OF WHERE THIS IS
UNCERTAIN OF WHERE THIS IS HEADING.
HEADING. THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE
THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT THEY ARE PART OF A CABAL,
THAT THEY ARE PART OF A CABAL, THEY’RE PART OF A DEEP-STATE
THEY’RE PART OF A DEEP-STATE ENEMY.
ENEMY. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF PRESIDENTS WHO ARE FRUSTRATED BY
PRESIDENTS WHO ARE FRUSTRATED BY THE PROFESSIONAL BUREAUCRATS
THE PROFESSIONAL BUREAUCRATS AROUND THEM WHEN THEY COME INTO
AROUND THEM WHEN THEY COME INTO OFFICE, BUT THEY’VE NEVER SEEN A
OFFICE, BUT THEY’VE NEVER SEEN A PRESIDENT WAGE WAR QUITE AS
PRESIDENT WAGE WAR QUITE AS OVERTLY AS THIS.
OVERTLY AS THIS. HE WOULD SAY IT’S THE OTHER WAY
HE WOULD SAY IT’S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
AROUND. IT’S CAUSED THIS EXTRAORDINARY
IT’S CAUSED THIS EXTRAORDINARY MOMENT IN WASHINGTON WHERE YOU
MOMENT IN WASHINGTON WHERE YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT AND THE
HAVE A PRESIDENT AND THE GOVERNMENT HE LEADS AT ODDS IN A
GOVERNMENT HE LEADS AT ODDS IN A MOST, YOU KNOW, PALPABLE AND
MOST, YOU KNOW, PALPABLE AND FRAUGHT WAY.
FRAUGHT WAY. AND IF THIS PRESIDENT’S GOING TO
AND IF THIS PRESIDENT’S GOING TO WIN RE-ELECTION AND HAVE FIVE

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